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TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.
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#72Right next to the Foxconn plant. /s There is precedent for fabs though, so its not totally out there.
Yeah Intel has quite a few I hear
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#73Bringing back manufacturing and other things of industrial nature from China isn't just good strategic planning in a time of uncertainty.
It is also a gesture of good faith because supporting a dictatorship that actively imprisons over a million people in concentration camps and uses them for organ harvesting should, at the very least, be punished economically. There is no finding equal ground or compromise with those bastards.
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#74Welcome to USA. Smart Move TSMC and Taiwan. You have earned a friend for life. For the doubters, this is just the beginning of Re-industrilization of America.
> Welcome to USA. Smart Move TSMC and Taiwan.
They've operated in the US for a while now.
From the press release: "In the United States, TSMC currently operates a fab in Camas, Washington and design centers in both Austin, Texas and San Jose, California. The Arizona facility would be TSMC’s second manufacturing site in the United States."
> You have earned a friend for life.
What a bizarre comment. If they leave, are they your enemy for life then?
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#75I’m excited to see a hedge against China in the form of better foreign relations with others and a revival of domestic manufacturing.
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#76What is the environmental footprint of a typical fab? From what I understand, modern chips are free of conflict materials, but are there toxic byproducts which would cause trouble with the EPA?
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#77Bringing back manufacturing and other things of industrial nature from China isn't just good strategic planning in a time of uncertainty. It is also a gesture of good faith because supporting a dictatorship that actively imprisons over a million people in concentration camps and uses them for organ harvesting should, at the very least, be punished economically. There is no finding equal ground or compromise with thos…
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Re: TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate Advanced Semiconductor Fab in U.S.
#78Welcome to USA. Smart Move TSMC and Taiwan. You have earned a friend for life. For the doubters, this is just the beginning of Re-industrilization of America.
> Welcome to USA. Smart Move TSMC and Taiwan. They've operated in the US for a while now. From the press release: "In the United States, TSMC currently operates a fab in Camas, Washington and design centers in both Austin, Texas and San Jose, California. The Arizona facility would be TSMC’s second manufacturing site in the United States." > You have earned a friend for life. What a bizarre comment. If they leave, are…
If you know anything about the geopolitics behind this, this was a forced move which TSMC wouldn't have otherwise done. If TSMC didn't do it, then US State Department would have funded Intel to produce their 5nm fabs here.
So yeah, educate yourself and then behave reasonably.
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#79Welcome to USA. Smart Move TSMC and Taiwan. You have earned a friend for life. For the doubters, this is just the beginning of Re-industrilization of America.
The US has lots of advanced fabs already. This isn't the part of the supply chain we're missing. This does nothing to reduce our dependence on China for manufacturing.
Edit: and this isn't actually a cutting edge fab. By the time it opens in 2024 the cutting edge process will be 3nm or beyond.
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#80part of me is curious if this is a way to appease the administration due to high pressure [0] and wait out the next election cycle. They are talking about 2021-2029. Even if Trump is reelected, I could see them leasing an existing fab and have a ribbon cutting ceremony for Trump to get his photo-op and then just weigh their options with minimal additional expenditure (they've already commented on opening a fab in US…
TSMC found it won't be economical unless subsidized. My understanding is that TSMC managed to get commitment to subsidy from US federal government and the State of Arizona.