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Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by olivermarks »

rorykoehler wrote: post #114
henriquez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the halo effect point. Without Logic and Final Cut, there’s no reason to not run Protools and Adobe Suite on a cheaper PC workstation. I’m curious about your statement that professional-grade audio software had historically been a Mac-only affair. Is that really true? I was using some pretty serious audio production software in Windows as early as 2003. What kinds of software were M…

I've never been in a pro audio studio that runs a windows machine and I've been in more than a few over the past 20 years.

Don't forget the midi equipped Atari ST! A lot of musicians used that for years even after Apple became dominant in music.

Separately it is great that Apple only charge 200 bucks for such sophisticated software

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by lux »

SloopJon wrote: post #94

The first two things I looked for are the price (free upgrade): "Logic Pro X 10.5 is available today as a free update for all existing users, and is available on the Mac App Store for $199.99 (US) for new customers." ... and the system requirements (doesn't require Catalina): "macOS 10.14.6 or later"

That second one is super important for any of us stuck with 32-bit plugins that haven't gotten updates!

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by panpanna »

pelagic_sky wrote: post #128
blub wrote: post #115

Even at triple the price Logic would be a compelling product. Feature by feature it's an incredible piece of software, coming with a series of great instruments, effect and tons of loops. Feature-wise it covers more or less everything you'd need. However after trying Ableton for a few weeks (they offer a 90 day trial + 30% discount) I recently switched from Logic and I find the Ableton interface and UX in general muc…

I switched from Logic to Ableton recently and now I love Ableton's workflow. I just downloaded the Logic update, and while there are new things, it feels like the same old Logic that I just couldn't get into. I'll be sticking with Ableton.

You are not alone.

I follow a youtube show where producers talk about their mixes and 90% use abelton live.

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by wuliwong »

jasode wrote: post #2

I own Apple Logic and thus I'm grateful for the continuous updates. On the other hand, I'm mystified why Apple continues its investment in this audio program. Yes, when Steve Jobs bought Logic from Emagic in 2002, it made strategic sense to fortify Apple's "software portfolio" to make Mac hardware more attractive. But that was before the surprising massive success of iPhones in 2007. Now, it seems like sales of Logic…

I think without knowing how much it costs Apple to maintain and update Logic it's hard to know. How do I way value versus cost without knowing costs? As far as Logic vs Avid; Logic locks a user into the Apple ecosystem, that is one difference.

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by kitotik »

wuliwong wrote: post #134
jasode wrote: post #2

I own Apple Logic and thus I'm grateful for the continuous updates. On the other hand, I'm mystified why Apple continues its investment in this audio program. Yes, when Steve Jobs bought Logic from Emagic in 2002, it made strategic sense to fortify Apple's "software portfolio" to make Mac hardware more attractive. But that was before the surprising massive success of iPhones in 2007. Now, it seems like sales of Logic…

I think without knowing how much it costs Apple to maintain and update Logic it's hard to know. How do I way value versus cost without knowing costs? As far as Logic vs Avid; Logic locks a user into the Apple ecosystem, that is one difference.

If you don’t think Avid / Pro Tools relies / relied on lock-in as much as Apple you weren’t paying attention. It was tied to hardware dsp boxes and iLok dongles for a long time.

Pro tools first big “unlocking” came when they bought m-audio and then would allow a crippled version of PT to run if you owned certain m-audio hardware.

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by rock_artist »

jasode wrote: post #2

I own Apple Logic and thus I'm grateful for the continuous updates. On the other hand, I'm mystified why Apple continues its investment in this audio program. Yes, when Steve Jobs bought Logic from Emagic in 2002, it made strategic sense to fortify Apple's "software portfolio" to make Mac hardware more attractive. But that was before the surprising massive success of iPhones in 2007. Now, it seems like sales of Logic…

> People have been speculating this possible acquisition for years but I don't think it will happen. So not sure what Logic does for Apple that AVID Pro Tools doesn't.

Might be a little ot. But Apple did actually acquired many top visionaries and developers from Avid to Logic team many years ago.

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by londons_explore »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #84
pier25 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple could buy all DAW companies (Steinberg, Ableton, etc) for peanuts and destroy music production on Windows if they wanted. Heck they could even buy Adobe without much effort and make it mac exclusive too. They don't do it probably because that would be considered a below the belt move and not worth the trouble since the mac is only 10% of its revenue.

They would probably be sued for being anti competitive if they bought out all the DAW companies and did that.

Apple is not in a monopoly position, so it's a perfectly legal move.

As long as they didn't become a monopoly in any specific creative field, it would be fine too.

Re: Apple unveils biggest update to Logic since the launch of Logic Pro X

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Post by dijksterhuis »

fit2rule wrote: post #136
qmmmur wrote: post #121

I'm glad for all the logic users and students I have. If you want to get serious about making music I'd urge you to check out REAPER.

REAPER has a great workflow. Its like the vim of DAW.

You just reminded me about Reascripts.

Now I know what I'm spending the rest of my lockdown doing.

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