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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by balfirevic »

ubercow13 wrote: post #249
zerr wrote: post #209

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Why? Go get a remote job and triple the salary, to start with. Of course don't mention your current one. Seriously, go scan HN Who Is Hiring thread for remote jobs - for US or Swiss companies, don't bill below six-figure. For German companies, aim high five-figure. Do it now.

Are there really that many US jobs hiring remote including outside the US so that every underpaid developer in Europe can get hired?

No, probably not. But it's possible that any particular (loosely speaking) underpaid developer can, because not all of them are actively looking for remote work.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by andrepd »

antaviana wrote: post #367
wolfgke wrote: post #339

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> I agree though about the big difference between the German and US management. I have a close friend that works at the regional Lidl HQ and she got reprimanded just after being hired for having used the singular "you" (less formal) instead of the plural "you" (I'm not sure how it translates into German) when addressing herself to her bosses on the company's hallways Using "du" instead of "Sie" for adressing people c…

Howcome the German Apple store are using “du” all over the place? Are they not well advised by their localization partners?

It's part of the brand, that advertisements which target young people / children, or else want to appear "cool", use the informal way of address.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by znpy »

paganel wrote: post #134
benjohnson1707 wrote: post #96

Former Schwarz employee here: The company made SO much money in the past 4 decades with big box / discount retailing, you won't believe it. Salaries are off the charts (it would make senior software engineers in SV look pale). Hubris is as well. The only thing that drives reasoning are statements like 'we're not just some random company, we're Schwarz Group'. It's the poster child Corp described by Andy Gorves statem…

> Salaries are off the charts Just to add another data point, Lidl is also the retailer that pays the best market salaries in the Eastern-European country where I live in (they actually included that in several of their hiring ads), and I'm talking about shop people like cashiers and the people that put things on the shelves. > They are getting into the car sales and recycle business as well. In here they've also ope…

> Just to add another data point, Lidl is also the retailer that pays the best market salaries in the Eastern-European country where I live in (they actually included that in several of their hiring ads), and I'm talking about shop people like cashiers and the people that put things on the shelves.

Just to add another data point: in the small town when I come from (southern italy) the Lidl store was a total failure and a complete mess. They acquired land built the whole building, opened short of staff, operated briefly (always short on staff and with a huge turnover) and then had huge problems with (afaik) the legality of the contracts for employees and allegedly employee mistreating.

That Lidl store didn't last long, to put it nicely, and the building is still on sale many years after that.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by eru »

klarws wrote: post #233
neuronic wrote: post #205

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Because the person doesn't know what they are talking about. Germans will never prefer Amazon over known local stores - it's already enough to be an American company these days. People know what that means and they don't want it. Wal-Mart completely crashed and burned in Germany and it already started at the weird greeting person at the entry. When Germans see this, the business is basically already bust. Keep the fa…

> Germany won't have any of the degrading bullshit like Wal-Mart or others in the US. In some areas yes, I hear that VW workers are paid well. In other areas, you have 400 Euro jobs and forced labor below minimum wage if the "job center" (formerly social security) decides that you need to be a slave. I don't understand why people here defend Europe as if it were the 1980s. Those times are long gone, perhaps folks her…

Labour below the minimum wage is a fairly new thing.

That's because minimum wages are a fairly new thing in Germany.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by niwork »

ga2arch wrote: post #299
asjw wrote: post #274

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That's a completely fair question. I'm a senior developer who works on distributed systems for one of the largest Italian private held financial institutions. To be completely honest I know almost nothing about finance, I just know how to make reliable software for them. I've been there for almost 4 years now, I started as a contractor but they offered a substantial yearly bonus to the base salary so I accepted the h…

Hi, I'm Italian too working in Milan, just wondering if you have any suggestions on how to get these kind of offers, i imagine they don't appear on public places like linkedin. if you don't mind we can talk about it via email.

> i imagine they don't appear on public places like linkedin

Can they do that? Just hire through a small network of people in the know? Sounds like a recipe for cronyism.

I'm not sure about Italy but in the UK companies legally have to advertise a job publicly and, if they receive an application that meets the criteria, I think they have to at least consider it, if not conduct an interview. That's not to say there is no nepotism, but there are measures to control it.

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Post by eru »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #336
eru wrote: post #334

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> I would never prefer a German company if there was an equivalent American company providing the same service. Why?

If the service and quality is equivalent then I would prefer to give my money to an American company since I'm American

I would prefer to keep my money, if I can.

Otherwise, I don't think any of Germans or Poles or Chinese or Americans etc are better humans than the other. Or more deserving.

There's a bit of an argument in favour of buying from poorer countries, like China or Bangladesh, I guess.

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Post by vidarh »

ga2arch wrote: post #299
asjw wrote: post #274

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That's a completely fair question. I'm a senior developer who works on distributed systems for one of the largest Italian private held financial institutions. To be completely honest I know almost nothing about finance, I just know how to make reliable software for them. I've been there for almost 4 years now, I started as a contractor but they offered a substantial yearly bonus to the base salary so I accepted the h…

Hi, I'm Italian too working in Milan, just wondering if you have any suggestions on how to get these kind of offers, i imagine they don't appear on public places like linkedin. if you don't mind we can talk about it via email.

Don't know Italy, but two things stands out above:

Getting in via contracting, and financial services.

Financial services tends to often have salaries significantly above the average for developers, and having gone the same route of contracting first myself it has some definite advantages:

- You establish your value on charging a high day rate that is entirely within the norm as a contractor but usually well above the pay for a permanent employee of similar seniority.

- The company knows you when you negotiate the permanent contract, so you represent a lower hiring risk.

- It's easier to appear as if you have options. E.g. when I went full time permanent, I had been on a part time contract, and I could point out that I had realistic expectations of booking a very significant amount of income over the following year from clients already mostly lined up, so to go permanent I made it clear the offer needed to justify to me why I should give that up.

This route is tougher and more uncertain, and frankly I wouldn't recommend it unless you're happy contracting as there's no guarantee you'll find a contract where they'll want to hire you.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by eru »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #348
eru wrote: post #334

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> I would never prefer a German company if there was an equivalent American company providing the same service. Why?

You know the game and the meta game better in your own country. Plus, there is nationalism, solidarity, proximity, proudness, language barrier, favoritism, etc. that all enter in consideration.

I guess I'd be in solidarity with all humans? Perhaps more with poorer humans, eg there's a reason to buy from China rather than America?

But really, just buy from the vendor that has the best balance of quality and price, I guess.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by eru »

collyw wrote: post #352
eru wrote: post #333

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Fish and water I guess? Look up any of scores of articles that come up when you search for 'How to shop at Aldi?' (like eg https://www.gimmesomeoven.com/aldi-101-how-to-shop-at-aldi/ ) to see how German shopping culture works. Oh, and Germans don't like greeters nor people to bag their groceries for them. When they see them, they suspect they could have saved 10 cents going to shop that doesn't have them instead. (An…

I am still confused. We have Aldi and Lidl here, they have an unusual selection, but good value for money. I am still missing from what happens at Wallmart that is unusual. I don't remember greeters in the ones I went to in Mexico.

I meant, to Germans Aldi and Lidl are the norm. Whatever you found normal at Walmart is unusual in Germany.
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