Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.
If only there was a team, a national team...tasked with coordinating this effort.
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Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be great if the states had some kind of united way to collaborate on these efforts rather than individually inventing the wheel 50 times.
They can of course collaborate, it's not like there are federal regulations preventing that from happening.
If you learned there were such regulations, would it surprise you? :/
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#73Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.
If only there was a team, a national team...tasked with coordinating this effort.
Then we'd have it next year instead of some now.
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#74Look at the graph on page 10 of their powerpoint. NY has significantly beat any estimate for cases thus far. Then look at their graph on page 33 on possible scenarios for when we reopen. Another doomsday prediction THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Mandatory testing? Good luck with that. Contact tracing? What happens if one of these criteria aren't met. Will Fuhrer Cuomo lock us all inside again?
It didn't happen because we locked down and flattened the curve. Remember those first couple weeks when it was doubling so fast it was hard to keep count of the cases and the hospital system came close to breaking under the stress? We stopped that from crashing the system by staying indoors. The models said, here's what'll happen if things continue as they are. They didnt say what would happen if we implemented a loc…
> it was doubling so fast it was hard to keep count of the cases and the hospital system came close to breaking under the stress?
In the majority of the country hospitals did not come any where close to breaking. Please don't spread fake news.
Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria
#75For those interested, here's the dashboard from the Vermont Department of Health.
https://vcgi.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/6...
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#76Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.
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Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
It didn't happen because we locked down and flattened the curve. Remember those first couple weeks when it was doubling so fast it was hard to keep count of the cases and the hospital system came close to breaking under the stress? We stopped that from crashing the system by staying indoors. The models said, here's what'll happen if things continue as they are. They didnt say what would happen if we implemented a loc…
> it was doubling so fast it was hard to keep count of the cases and the hospital system came close to breaking under the stress? In the majority of the country hospitals did not come any where close to breaking. Please don't spread fake news.
I'm referring to New York, not the rest of the country. I'm not talking about the majority of the country. The comment I'm replying to is apparently [flagged] [dead], so maybe it's not visible? For context, my comment is responding to a comment that is regarding the projections for NY and "Furher Cuomo's" response to it. My reply is discussing what was happening in new york. certainly the response we had here would not have made sense in another area that wasnt on the edge of hospital system collapse, but that's not what this comment chain and thread is discussing, it's discussing New York.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably nothing, but it provides a way for the government to answer the question "when are we going to open back up?" to being "when all the checkmarks are green" instead of "when we say so".
Which is actually quite valuable as transparency from decision makers makes it much easier to evaluate the quality of their decisions and to understand whether they are being foolishly capricious or they are using facts and reasonable judgement about what should be done about an ongoing crisis. Then if you disagree with the government's position, you can base an objection on facts (e.g., one of these metrics is not s…
IMO this might be the biggest benefit. Whenever I feel like the US is a failed state, the reason always seems to be people demanding 1-bit answers to 128-bit questions. This shows the criteria, quantifies everything, sources everything, and clearly shows what the goals are and what the current state is. If people want to argue about when to reopen, this turns the arguments into deciding what the criteria should be and how it should be measured, rather than bullshit like "I want everything to reopen now because that's what the angry man on TV told me to think".
A lot of people screaming about reopening don't even seem to realize there are criteria and metrics involved, rather that it's just some arbitrary decision arbitrarily made by governors, which is why their whining is so useless. I'd be much more open to hearing people's reopen arguments if they came in the form of, "we don't need to care about this metric, because and this other metric can be lower, and this whole stage of the process doesn't need to exist, therefore we can think about reopening earlier." Instead you get neckbeards with AR-15s and Confederate flags (in Canadian border states!) screaming at public servants about...something. I don't know. They're mad and they want something to change but they have no ideas and they don't know how to communicate with people.
Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria
#79Very informative and transparent. This should be the standard everywhere. I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area.
>I'm a bit surprised (and disappointed) something similar does not exist for the Bay Area. Keep in mind that the total number of COVID deaths in CA is less than than the number of deaths in NY on a single bad week . While a dashboard like this would be good, I think that an order of magnitude difference warrants perhaps being less disappointed.
I think that's not the point though. While we're not hit as bad, we should have a reopening dashboard instead of a silly slideshow[1] with some rhetorical questions
[1]: https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/California...
Re: NY launches live dashboard of each regions progress hitting 7 reopening criteria
#80Look at the graph on page 10 of their powerpoint. NY has significantly beat any estimate for cases thus far. Then look at their graph on page 33 on possible scenarios for when we reopen. Another doomsday prediction THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Mandatory testing? Good luck with that. Contact tracing? What happens if one of these criteria aren't met. Will Fuhrer Cuomo lock us all inside again?
It didn't happen because we locked down and flattened the curve. Remember those first couple weeks when it was doubling so fast it was hard to keep count of the cases and the hospital system came close to breaking under the stress? We stopped that from crashing the system by staying indoors. The models said, here's what'll happen if things continue as they are. They didnt say what would happen if we implemented a loc…
You’re incorrect. Figures were doubling in the first few weeks because testing was ramping up. More testing = more infected. And this may be a shock to you but the virus didn’t come to NY or the state in March or Feb. It’s been around since December if not earlier. Govt officials believed those projections and prepped the Javits center and brought in that Navy hospital. Cuomo begged for ventilators that he already had and forced elderly back into their assisted care homes.
What’s happening here has nothing to do with health or safety.