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Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by onemoresoop »

emersion wrote: post #54
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. Well, it's still you + gmail.com. It could be you + fastmail.com, it could be you + posteo.de, it could be you + . You still chose gmail over another provider, like you could choose cucumbers.pizza over another provider in the case of the Fediverse.

If i remember correctly gmail was offering unlimited storage and thats what won me over.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by narrator »

olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

You guys forget how big of a problem spam was before gmail. They won the AI arms race and basically eliminated spam as a major problem.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by barney54 »

narrator wrote: post #112
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

You guys forget how big of a problem spam was before gmail. They won the AI arms race and basically eliminated spam as a major problem.

This is right on, along with the large amount of free storage.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

#114

Post by chrischen »

onemoresoop wrote: post #111
emersion wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. Well, it's still you + gmail.com. It could be you + fastmail.com, it could be you + posteo.de, it could be you + . You still chose gmail over another provider, like you could choose cucumbers.pizza over another provider in the case of the Fediverse.

If i remember correctly gmail was offering unlimited storage and thats what won me over.

Did they at one point offer unlimited, or was it always just a really large amount (which in today's landscape isn't that large anymore).

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by mirimir »

emersion wrote: post #54
olah_1 wrote: post #7

The problem for the Fediverse will always be domains, in my opinion. It sounds silly to the technical demographic, but to a normal person, it is a massive issue. "Which server do I choose to get in bed with?" It's not just a question of which server do you trust to be a good actor and to not shut down tomorrow. It's also a question of which domain name do you want associated with your user account? Do you want alice@…

>When I sign up for gmail, I can just be myself. I don't have to be myself + something else. Well, it's still you + gmail.com. It could be you + fastmail.com, it could be you + posteo.de, it could be you + . You still chose gmail over another provider, like you could choose cucumbers.pizza over another provider in the case of the Fediverse.

Yes, "it's still you + gmail.com". And some of us will refuse to use that address.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by mandelbrotwurst »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #106
mandelbrotwurst wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of those mails from non Google domains are still being processed by Gmail under the hood. Last I checked, I think Google was processing something like 2/3 of all email.

Really! I'm surprised, Exchange in particular seems to be pretty ubiquitous in the business world. Not to mention, I do know a fair number of people with non-gmail personal addresses—iCloud, Outlook.com, Yahoo etc.

Hm, on second thought I just did a quick search and I think I was wrong and it's maybe more like in the range of 1/4 to 1/3. Also, am thinking there may not even be a way to measure this very easily outside of just random surveys or trying to gather data separately from major providers.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by Igelau »

chrischen wrote: post #114
onemoresoop wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If i remember correctly gmail was offering unlimited storage and thats what won me over.

Did they at one point offer unlimited, or was it always just a really large amount (which in today's landscape isn't that large anymore).

They never exactly offered unlimited, it was just that the limit was constantly going up. You could watch your total storage ticking.

Re: We Are Trying Out PeerTube

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Post by screenbeard »

chrischen wrote: post #114
onemoresoop wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If i remember correctly gmail was offering unlimited storage and thats what won me over.

Did they at one point offer unlimited, or was it always just a really large amount (which in today's landscape isn't that large anymore).

It was 1Gb initially, then on their 1st birthday 2Gb and slowly growing daily, which seemed practically unlimited compared to other email that were offering 100Mb at the most? A quick look at an article[1] at the time (who claimed it was "outrageous") show Hotmail were offering 250Mb and Yahoo had just launched 1Gb to catch up.

[1] https://www.searchenginejournal.com/gmail-rewards-users-with...

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