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James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by DoofusOfDeath »

sayusasugi wrote: post #33
daenz wrote: post #16

I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…

People are complicated, anyone attempting to lump individuals into "us" vs "them" or whatever other groups you want is a fool.

I'm can't tell of your comment is intentionally ironic, but I think it violates its own rule.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by streamingvac »

threeseed wrote: post #31
streamingvac wrote: post #26

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Politics doesn't belong in a professional environment. So employees should be avoiding the topic.

My coworkers have no problem discussing Donald trump and republicans. They laugh about our president a lot. Yet when I bring up the Chinese government, silence could be heard.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by BurningFrog »

chii wrote: post #39
daenz wrote: post #16

I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…

> even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. this is how stalin and any of the authoritarian regimes would've started their control. To make people fear reprisals. To make people fear debate by outright social pressure to conform. I think you did the wrong thing by passive default of agreeing and not rocking the boat.

You need to read up on Stalin.

He focused more on mass murder and less on social pressure.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by 8f2ab37a-ed6c »

threeseed wrote: post #31
streamingvac wrote: post #26

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Politics doesn't belong in a professional environment. So employees should be avoiding the topic.

Not in 2020. That goes against the "bring your whole self to work" mindset that's recently become popular.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by jpmoral »

streamingvac wrote: post #26

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I don't understand this PoV. Regardless of the Chinese government's incorrect handling of the coronavirus, deliberate or not, they did not dictate nor control the US response. I'm sorry about your friends' grandparents, but what's happening in the US right now is all on the US.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by duxup »

look_lookatme wrote: post #37
duxup wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we know his politics to say he is or isn't a thing? I think the story just notes that he got a lot of positive attention from some specific groups.

Headlines matter.

I think the crazy nature of things now very much means you can become some groups hero overnight..... potentially not of your own choice.

Accordingly I don't see the headline telling me what he personally thinks.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by KungFuJohnny »

airnomad wrote: post #24
daenz wrote: post #16

I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…

You didn't have to bite your tongue - you could've told her she's wrong.

As the article shows, you can speak up and you can get fired for speaking up.

Re: James Damore and three others end Google suit

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Post by throwlaplace »

threeseed wrote: post #31
streamingvac wrote: post #26

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Politics doesn't belong in a professional environment. So employees should be avoiding the topic.

>Politics doesn't belong in a professional environment.

hmm i wonder if your boss feels the same way (i.e. that his/her business interests are completely separate from his/her politics). the idea that you're politically neutral at work - the very locus of political contention - is laughable.

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