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Politics doesn't belong in a professional environment.
So employees should be avoiding the topic.
James Damore and three others end Google suit
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#32I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…
You should watch the portland state debate on youtube.
Super disturbing to know this came out of Google.
Like what the fuck is going on in sillicon valley? You guys lose the plot? Did anyone actually read that memo? Like actually read it, not just skim it for angry words like "women", and "man".
Its a bit tone deaf but its a huuuuge stretch to call him alt right for anything he said (hes super left.)
In any case I hope he made bank in that settlement.
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#33I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…
People are complicated, anyone attempting to lump individuals into "us" vs "them" or whatever other groups you want is a fool.
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#34It was a joint request to dismiss with no further comment, ie, almost certainly a settlement & a nondisclosure agreement.
My thoughts as well - makes sense. It's going to continue to bring Google a headache, especially with conservatism on the apparent rise (i.e. still could have Trump in 2024).
Far easier to settle with a non-disclosure clause and an agreement to halt all public appearances. James Damore went on a campaign of visiting universities and other locations to discuss his views. Honestly, it was a good move, his case was weak, but the publicity seems to have paid off.
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#35I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…
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#36I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…
You didn't have to bite your tongue - you could've told her she's wrong.
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#37Damore does not fit into the neat ideological right or left classification but it would be impossible for an institution like Bloomberg to have nuance on this issue. Just because some deplorable lifted him up doesn't mean he should be defined specifically on an ideological axis. But, of course, who gives a fuck. The rage machine rages on.
Do we know his politics to say he is or isn't a thing? I think the story just notes that he got a lot of positive attention from some specific groups.
Headlines matter.
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#38Sadly, the person who leaked conversations on an internal, proprietary corporate messaging system was never held accountable for her actions.
If I had designed the system, I would have made it a fireable offense to knowingly leak something from the platform. Without a penalty, this kind of situation was both foreseeable and inevitable.
That would have been a PR disaster for Google. Woman retaliated against for whisteblowing the company's sexism for the whole world to see. She would have been made a hero.
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#39I remember at a previous job, a female engineer talking to other engineers when the Damore story broke. She said "I can't believe he said that women can't be good engineers" and indicated he deserved to be fired. As someone who actually read what he wrote, I just had to bite my tongue. That's not what he said at all , but even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace. It's just dis…
> even making the distinction makes you one of "them" and politicizes the workplace.
this is how stalin and any of the authoritarian regimes would've started their control. To make people fear reprisals. To make people fear debate by outright social pressure to conform.
I think you did the wrong thing by passive default of agreeing and not rocking the boat.
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Might be how you approach the topic. I hang with some pretty far left folks and no one likes China's government and is pretty open about it. Might just be your circle. You could ask them I guess?