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Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by nicoburns »

nogabebop23 wrote: post #205
reggieband wrote: post #150

Microsoft is really the best at the slow strategic burn. * You host your project in github * You fund your project using github sponsors * You develop your project using github codespaces * You compile, test and deploy using github actions * You cloud host on azure Each individual feature is definitely great. I'm not trying to be critical of Microsoft trying to turn their investment in github into a profitable busine…

As someone how really like github and really dislikes azure devops - and a corporate direction pushing us from the former to the later - any idea what their endgame is as these two converge?

The corporate direction could be based on pricing. Azure DevOps (pay per concurrent job) can be a lot cheaper than Github Actions (pay per minute of CI time, with macOS minutes counting as 10 minutes each).

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by nicoburns »

donmcronald wrote: post #231
Kipters wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? It's not like you MUST deploy on Azure

I think it's more about all of the integration leading to efficiencies that are hard to ignore while they're being subsidized / promoted. It'll start out as something where the value proposition is too good to ignore, but, as time goes on, they'll tier off features and charge a premium as you scale up. There was a time when I was hopeful and though Microsoft would take a developer first approach with the end goal bei…

> The local version of VSCode will disappear overnight

That's the beauty of open source though. VSCode is prominent enough that someone will fork it and maintain it if Microsoft pulls the plug.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by zimmund »

ivalm wrote: post #31
xendipity wrote: post #2

Ah, this really makes sense with all of the recent work they've done on VSCode's remote development capabilities. - An early announcement on their focus: https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2019/05/02/remote-develo... - Most (all?) of their recent VSCode updates include improvements to remote development. i.e.: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_44#_remote-developm... - Facebook partnering and becoming an early…

Their remote development capability is amazing and was quite a game changer for me. Having a nice ide where all of the plugins work on a remote server as if everything is local is so nice!

How does it work with poor or slow internet connection?

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by woile »

reggieband wrote: post #150

Microsoft is really the best at the slow strategic burn. * You host your project in github * You fund your project using github sponsors * You develop your project using github codespaces * You compile, test and deploy using github actions * You cloud host on azure Each individual feature is definitely great. I'm not trying to be critical of Microsoft trying to turn their investment in github into a profitable busine…

A netlify competitor? One click deployments? create release -> deploy

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by mylons »

wackget wrote: post #240

Great, but Github doesn't even support sorting your repositories into folders and is ignoring years-old requests to change that: https://github.com/dear-github/dear-github/issues/74 Gitlab does.

Neat, use gitlab then. Get over your tribalism and use the right tool for the job.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by jannes »

evilduck wrote: post #199
suyash wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup all the free stuff is ultimately to lead us into using and paying for Azure. Need an open source alternative to GitHub.

Gitlab CE, Gitea, Gogs

Some background on these:

Gitea is a fork of Gogs. Both are written in Go and are pretty light on resources (they support SQLite as database backend).

Gitlab is heavier on resources and requires at least Postgresql and Redis.

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by palerdot »

eloff wrote: post #153
skrtskrt wrote: post #91

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While VS Code is definitely good in general, and first choice for languages like JavaScript, I find it really hard to compare it to JetBrains PyCharm and GoLand (understanding GoLand has no free version). The debugging and refactoring experiences for Go and Python in VSCode feel slow, awkward to set up and configure and just generally tacked-on. I have gotten the PyCharm professional and GoLand licensed through my em…

I pay for the full JetBrains subscription. While I still use vscode for typescript and rust, I use JetBrains for anything else. It's one of those no brainer purchases that pays for itself within a month. Programmers create enormous value. If you can get even small single digit percentage improvements by leveraging better tooling, it pays for itself almost right away. I estimate conservatively I produce $500,000 in va…

> I estimate conservatively I produce $500,000 in value a year

Do you actually earn this amount per year? Or, is this just a projection of what you think the value of code you write is?

Re: GitHub Codespaces

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Post by harikb »

skrtskrt wrote: post #91
swagonomixxx wrote: post #60

This is pretty epic. VS Code has proven itself to be one of the best (if not the best) and feature-complete editor out there. It's basically an IDE of a ton of languages at this point, and it's completely free. Integrating it with GH is a no-brainer move from Microsoft's standpoint, to increase market share even further with more seamless integration. If they're able to do setup for Python, Go, Ruby, and JavaScript p…

While VS Code is definitely good in general, and first choice for languages like JavaScript, I find it really hard to compare it to JetBrains PyCharm and GoLand (understanding GoLand has no free version). The debugging and refactoring experiences for Go and Python in VSCode feel slow, awkward to set up and configure and just generally tacked-on. I have gotten the PyCharm professional and GoLand licensed through my em…

Just an anecdote from a sample size of one - I had a recent situation where I had to nagivate and edit a code base that was a mix of Go, C++, and JS. And I had a paid IntelliJ Ultimate license. Long story short, VSCode did the best/fastest go-to-defintion like navigation given the constraints. IntelliJ separating Clion to a separate install is rather unfortunate. I can edit Java and Go together, but not C++
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