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Re: Judge approves Facebook's settlement with FTC over ‘stunning’ privacy violations

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"Old newspapers could only dream of the kind of advertising revenue that sites like this probably have." Actually they are struggling for ad revenue hence all the third party crud in their web pages. Many of them allege that companies like Facebook and Google have "stolen" their ad revenue. Some complained of Craigslist taking away their classified ads business. Old newspapers, particularly local ones, are going out…

For newspapers: Ask for donation or promote subscriptions, almost no one will mind, but don't spam us with ads and tracking, without consent. Then we can talk. Unless you honest up, there is nothing we will talk about.

Historically, advertising has always been the main source of income for almost all non-state news organizations, so I don't see any reason to think a non-advertising model would work on the Internet.

Re: Judge approves Facebook's settlement with FTC over ‘stunning’ privacy violations

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> Old newspapers are going out of business thanks to competition from ad-supported websites that operate as middlemen for news delivered via internet. And when the newspaper goes out of business, will the aggregators just sprout newsrooms to replace their free sources of information? I doubt it. Aggregation of news only works if there's news to aggregate. We have already seen local and hyperlocal news wither on the v…

You're arguing a different point than the person you're responding to. You're correct of course, on the point that aggregators only function so long as they have content to aggregate. But that doesn't mean that aggregators don't also promote further market consolidation. I don't think many people are arguing that publications like AP, Bloomberg, NYT, Reuters, Fox News (I know I know, but you can't pretend they aren't…

NYT has flirted with death before. The Chicago Tribune went through the bankruptcy wringer. Just this year the owner of several regional newspapers, also the second-largest newspaper chain in the country, declared bankruptcy: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/media/mcclatchy-bankruptcy/in... The first biggest was merely acquired.

AP isn't a publication, it's a co-op association that syndicates stories, so it actually also suffers from the aggregators' problems.

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