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Does anyone know if the original statements from Apple and/or Google are available online?
I believe it comes from here: https://blog.google/documents/72/Exposure_Notifications_Serv... Section 3.c.i
It sounds like this only applies to Google's own exposure notification service and would not apply to standalone contact-tracing apps such as the one being proposed by the UK government.
Will be interesting to see if they can ban Indian govt. app[1] which needs full location access(clarified)[3]. A lot of people like this app(including me) but also know government does not have good track record in securing private data. Previously Apple were made to bend their rules when India threatened to ban Apple devices if they don't allow TRAI Do Not Disturb app in 2018.[2] [1] https://play.google.com/store/ap…
Not sure about Android, but if you're on iOS you have the choice to disable "full location access". In case it's needed to run certain feature in the app, you can choose the "Allow while using" option. I do that will all the apps that require location access: local food delivery, cab services, vehicle rental and what not.
Google have flat out banned any apps that have anything to do with combating COVID-19 if they aren't either funded by their government or are a registered health company. I tried releasing a symptom tracker app before Zoe released theirs and it was rejected for this reason.
They will ban and flag your account if your app just mentions the word Covid. It is absolutely absurd. Only Google is allowed to make a Covid app.
I've been wondering about the UK contact tracing app because they seem to be deliberately misleading saying that data is secure on the phone, yet it's a centralised model, and they are using bullshit terms like "clinically secure algorithm" to describe the one-time codes; Is the source code of these apps something that could be FOI requested from NHSx seeing as it is publicly funded by the tax payer? Also they've alr…
Given that Palantir is involved, I'd not touch it with a long stick https://tech.newstatesman.com/coronavirus/palantir-covid19-d...
Holy shit, and I didn't think that this whole contact tracing bullshit could look even worse.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
It may be a bit harsh, but it makes sense. Too many people are trying to take advantage of the situation to pull scams. It's a lot easier for Google to operate on a whitelist model than a blacklist model.
Then Google would be building a whitelist. They aren't doing that, they are using a position of power to isolate the market for themselves. That is a monopoly.
Does anyone else find this a little ironic given Google is a company that has been logging peoples location to a very fine detail for years
1. It’s actually crap and they don’t want their advertisers to know that their ads are sold based on crap quality data/don’t want the backlash of doing a poor job helping
2. Most people at google care a lot about privacy (either in the secret kept between you and google sense or the more common sense definition people seem to use on hn) and they don’t really think about this data as something the firm has/should release
3. They are afraid that if governments realised they had this data then google would be regulated or every minor security agency/random government department would be demanding access to it by law.
4. They strongly feel that surveillance by (well intentioned?) private companies is ok but by governments it os not.
Will be interesting to see if they can ban Indian govt. app[1] which needs full location access(clarified)[3]. A lot of people like this app(including me) but also know government does not have good track record in securing private data. Previously Apple were made to bend their rules when India threatened to ban Apple devices if they don't allow TRAI Do Not Disturb app in 2018.[2] [1] https://play.google.com/store/ap…
I've been wondering about the UK contact tracing app because they seem to be deliberately misleading saying that data is secure on the phone, yet it's a centralised model, and they are using bullshit terms like "clinically secure algorithm" to describe the one-time codes; Is the source code of these apps something that could be FOI requested from NHSx seeing as it is publicly funded by the tax payer? Also they've alr…
https://www.hsj.co.uk/technology-and-innovation/exclusive-wo...
If this was written by NSHX I would install it, but given the dodgy provenance and lack of open source there's no way I'm going to install it.
covid19 has become a buzzword factory. Politicians popularize terms like "herd immunity" , "crush the curve", "testing", "ventilators", "PPE" etc to appear to be doing something. "Tracing" is the next in line, but it's a total sham. No country has been able to contain the epidemic with bluetooth. And all the countries that manage the epidemic have first waited until they have very few cases , which can be traced manu…
You seem to agree with Schneier! I'm with you, the whole premise is utterly useless. https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/05/me_on_covad-1...
It doesn't need to be perfectly effective to be useful. Even a small reduction in R is very helpful.