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Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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Visual Studio Express (Fine for a lot of development tasks): $0.00

Visual Studio Professional (for students/educators): $0.00

Visual Studio Professional (if you turn up at any Microsoft meeting where they launch a new version of VS): £0

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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I don't see how people can complain XCode 4 (with IntelliSense!!) for $4.99 is disrespectful. Sure it's not as generous as free, but it's still pretty damn good value. A lot of people will probably buy it now for the Intellisense (or 'Codesense') functionality, who otherwise wouldn't have much cared.

People aren't complaining about XCode costing money. The problem is more that up until now, XCode has been the only way of getting a C and C++ compiler.

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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I'm surprised this made it to the number 1 spot on the front page. From the Hacker News Guidelines: You can make up a new title if you want, but if you put gratuitous editorial spin on it, the editors may rewrite it. Xcode 4 is available as a free download for Mac and iOS developers with a paid membership [1], just like the versions before it. Those who aren't paying members of ADC can get Xcode 4 via the Mac App Sto…

No. The free membership does not allow you to download Xcode 4 for free - for that you need the US$99/year membership. You can download Xcode 4 through the Mac App Store, if you live in one of the countries served by the store, have a valid credit card issued in a country served by the store or have gift cards.

I have an account in the Brazilian store since the day it opened. In order to download (free, mind you) podcasts directly from the iPod, I needed an account in the US store paid for with gift cards.

I also don't see the spin as it represents accurately the cost of Xcode 4 - US$ 5 if you download it (assuming you can) and US$ 99 if bundled with other services.

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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They're a lot more abundant than the Mac you need to run Xcode on, though. iTMS cards are purchasable at every 7-Eleven and nearly every major supermarket, Wal-Mart, Meijer, Target or what-have-you in the USA. You can buy Xcode with $5 in nickles if you have access to a Coinstar machine. Let's be realistic, the hardware demands are much more serious than $5 on an iTunes card. The problem here is the message Apple is…

> iTMS cards are purchasable at every (...) or what-have-you in the USA. Outside the USA, what do you do?

Either buy the gift card in your country, or alternatively get a US gift card on eBay.

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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It is the difference between free and not free. They are trying to drive developers to use the App Store? Sounds ridiculous coming out of my mouth. They are trying to kill off OSX hobbyist experimentation in favor of iOS? I think I'm getting warmer.

Maybe they want to create an incentive for developers to release their software at a low price on the App Store instead of making it free? Transform the freeware into low priced apps on which they get a share.

That's actually a very interesting thought, and quite plausible. Though I'd expect them to charge more for XCode if they wanted to spur thoughts of "I need to recoup these costs" properly.

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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And while, $5 is still well within the average teenagers reach, it's still a lot more friction than free. Smalltalk companies did this to themselves, but with a smaller userbase and bigger fees. (Which is worse in both dimensions!) With $5000 seats, the friction was hella high. Then Java came along with tools that weren't 100th as cool, but which were frictionless and free. It's kinda the playbook for being a superio…

> Java came along with tools that weren't 100th as cool That's one hell of an understatement...

That's one hell of an understatement...

I just want to relate the experience, not start a flame war. Java tools are pretty darn cool nowadays.

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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Based on the general sentiment in this thread, I guess the HN community doesn't want people to be able to charge money for software.

For some reason I am experiencing cognitive dissonance...

Re: Xcode now costs US$ 4.99

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Nobody is.

I develop iOS apps on a hackintosh. It's of equivalent spec of a recent Mac Pro, apart from it's an i7 instead of a Xeon.

As do I. It is my main work computer. It cost me $1200 for parts, and an equivalent Mac would be ~ $4000
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