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Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by lowdose »

kart23 wrote: post #52
MarcScott wrote: post #22

I thought this was a pretty good explanation of the 3 sightings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7jcBGLIpus

It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. You dont think these navy pilots know what planes look like on their radar and thermals? Mutiple ship and aircraft radar picked up consistent readings, movements, speeds that simply weren't possible. Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. It might be from us, it might be f…

> Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal.

That's exactly what they want their adversaries to think so adversaries are going invest a ridiculous amount of resources in achieving projected but non-existing capabilities.

Japan's FOMO reaction is proof this genius form of inception is working. The authority fallacy never fails at scale.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by krapp »

lowdose wrote: post #91
kart23 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. You dont think these navy pilots know what planes look like on their radar and thermals? Mutiple ship and aircraft radar picked up consistent readings, movements, speeds that simply weren't possible. Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. It might be from us, it might be f…

> Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. That's exactly what they want their adversaries to think so adversaries are going invest a ridiculous amount of resources in achieving projected but non-existing capabilities. Japan's FOMO reaction is proof this genius form of inception is working. The authority fallacy never fails at scale.

If our adversaries are that gullible and incapable of grasping even basic scientific principles, why should we be worried about them?

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by lowdose »

krapp wrote: post #92
lowdose wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. That's exactly what they want their adversaries to think so adversaries are going invest a ridiculous amount of resources in achieving projected but non-existing capabilities. Japan's FOMO reaction is proof this genius form of inception is working. The authority fallacy never fails at scale.

If our adversaries are that gullible and incapable of grasping even basic scientific principles, why should we be worried about them?

Well they wouldn't be the first nation state to invest an enormous amount of resources in trying to develop science fiction like capabilities.

Excluding a range of possibilities with a reasonable amount of certainty is a very expensive exploration quest. After concluding it was all a wild goose chase it is still superior to nudge your adversaries in a direction that doesn't exclude this specific range of opportunities.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by krapp »

lowdose wrote: post #93
krapp wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If our adversaries are that gullible and incapable of grasping even basic scientific principles, why should we be worried about them?

Well they wouldn't be the first nation state to invest an enormous amount of resources in trying to develop science fiction like capabilities. Excluding a range of possibilities with a reasonable amount of certainty is a very expensive exploration quest. After concluding it was all a wild goose chase it is still superior to nudge your adversaries in a direction that doesn't exclude this specific range of opportunitie…

I feel like the range of possibilities that appears to break the laws of physics entirely doesn't need resources to exclude, at least in the absence of harder evidence than some grainy video. If you're referring to Star Wars, at least that seemed physically possible.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by pankajdoharey »

3131s wrote: post #81
m3kw9 wrote: post #12

I find it curious that all unclassified UFO videos are blurry and very hard to decipher

There are images and videos of the Hangzhou UFO: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8RLOdlrA7l4/TEAMaZ4LhjI/AAAAAAAAD0... https://www.elitereaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ufo-... https://newsinstact.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3-news-uf... This has clips from multiple videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=0CYFEZFNl6E... The story has at least been vetted by ABC News, who reported that this sightin…

There are many weird footage like this one https://youtu.be/HfUpnwxTBME

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

#97

Post by puranjay »

imtringued wrote: post #87
puranjay wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if we're just too uninteresting to be visited by extraterrestrial life. Maybe there is a part of the universe that's teeming with life and resources that extraterrestrials prefer to visit instead. Going by our own immediate galactical neighborhood, we're a veritable oasis in a desert as far as life is concerned. So maybe they've mapped out the galaxies, discovered our little planet, and decided that it's too…

Finding exoplanets is far harder than you think. The only way to meaningfully inspect a planet is by visiting it.

With our current technology, yes. But we're talking about an alien race capable of traveling light year distances. I'm sure their planet searching capabilities would be far ahead of us as well.

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by emiliobumachar »

jiggawatts wrote: post #17
m3kw9 wrote: post #12

I find it curious that all unclassified UFO videos are blurry and very hard to decipher

Currently, the human race has several billion cameras readily available to take footage of rare occurrences. Not just mobile phones, but think also of CCTV security cameras, dash cams, etc... The simple logical conclusion is that footage of rare but real events ought to be more readily available. And in fact, that's exactly what's observed! There is now a wide variety of high quality videos to choose from, if what yo…

Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1235/

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by lgats »

simonh wrote: post #77
kart23 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. You dont think these navy pilots know what planes look like on their radar and thermals? Mutiple ship and aircraft radar picked up consistent readings, movements, speeds that simply weren't possible. Personally, I think it's some black-budget government project that somebody wasn't supposed to reveal. It might be from us, it might be f…

>It doesnt say anything about the radar readings recieved, or the pilots reactions. To be fair, for the last video which shows telemetry data on the screen, he does explain what it means and how it shows that the object being tracked is actually stationary or moving very slowly. As for the highly trained professional pilot's reactions, check out this breakdown of that last video, in which the pilots are freaking out.…

I do not think that was the [youtube] link you intended

Re: Japan to Draw Up UFO Encounter Protocols After U.S. Footage

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Post by EmilioMartinez »

imtringued wrote: post #88
EmilioMartinez wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The selection occurs when hi-res videos depict so clearly what is actually going on that it's revealed to be some mundane event, and doesn't even qualify as a UFO any more (even if it were positively identified as an alien spacecraft, in which case afawk it remains classified)

The reverse argument is that if blurry evidence of aliens exists and aliens are real then there is also lots of extremely clear evidence of aliens that has never been released to the public. I find it unlikely that we haven't had a leak yet. The reality is that this extremely clear evidence and the aliens that it is supposedly depicting simply does not exist.

Also, if it were the case that the intelligence community had very clear evidence of aliens, they would be extra cautious about the blurry evidence they release. Also, it would be a huge statistical anomaly that either civilians didn't catch some of that clear evidence, o that intelligence are actually that proficient in doing global cover ups.
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