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How is it insecure-by-default?
Because on an Ubuntu Server, it's auto-deploying updates that I haven't even tested.
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> Honestly I don't have a problem with that. But if they don't give power user the option to opt out, this is just disrespectful The problem is that "power users" can't be trusted to use this power responsibly, or they operate based on assumptions that won't always be true. Either way they end up hurting other people in enough situations that this becomes an ecosystem issue. Power users often help others set up their…
The arrogance in this comment astounds me. It's almost never appropriate to assume that people don't have the right to make decisions for themselves, even if you think those decisions harm them. People have different values and weigh their own decisions against their own values, not yours.
> Snap applications auto-update and that’s fine if Ubuntu wants to keep systems secure. But it can’t even be turned off manually. OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already s…
We work at remote sites on cell connections. Part of the reason we moved to Ubuntu from Windows was the ability to control data usage, which is expensive. Automatic updates quickly become a significant slice of the bill when random decisions like these get pushed on users. Ubuntu was supposed to help prevent us from needing to chase this.
We tried to make an internal IoT device using Ubuntu Core and snaps because the capabilities of it were very promising. We started a PoC and about halfway through we hit a major roadblock. Our enterprise network does certificate substitution, and Ubuntu Core absolutely does not allow you to install your own certificates globally, so our devices would never receive updates. We tried EVERY hack we could think up, short…
A colleague of mine was also looking at Ubuntu Core for an IoT project recently, but Ubuntu wanted $15k/y to run a private, branded Snap store - erm.. no. If they really want snaps to succeed, there should be an open source snap store protocol, and 3rd parties should be allowed to run their own stores, just like you can add 3rd part apt repos, for example. We decided on Photon OS, BTW. It's tiny, and perfect for use…
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What if your goal is to bring Linux to the masses?
Well then there is a lot of work to do besides snapping and updates. For a normal user, the INSTANT something goes wrong in Linux, you step from “something kinda like Windows” to “100% Voodoo you are expected to know”
> Snap applications auto-update and that’s fine if Ubuntu wants to keep systems secure. But it can’t even be turned off manually. OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already s…
I hope Canonical fixes this immediately. I'm not eager to spend time re-researching to market for a suitable OS.
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> Microsoft didn't have a choice. Given an option regular users will never update their computers I think this is a misconception. A few weeks ago I was updating my Windows 7 install that hadn't booted for a year or so. I opened Windows Update. It looked for updates, and found some. I clicked the update button. It proceeded to start downloading, by which I mean it would hang for 1 to 2 minutes and then download very…
45 to 90 mins to update my Macs. They might not reboot 5 to 10 times but it's not quick. 19.04 Ubuntu just died on me today (I know some expert could have gotten in working). Apparently 19.04 support ended and someone took down the servers. So trying to update would tell me something about the servers having no release file. And they wouldn't let me update to 20.04 until I patched 19.04. I never modded anything. What…
If you're not going to do release upgrades frequently you should stick to LTS releases (20.04 is one), which are supported for over 4 years: https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
> I hate that Chromium’s snap takes more than 10 seconds to load on cold boot on a freaking SSD, whereas .deb and Flatpak apps load in 1-2 seconds. Can someone verify this? As someone who will eventually upgrade to 20.04, this is concerning.
2) It somehow consumes insane amount of CPU for me. I have noticed my fans going crazy (mind you I am using a 32GB RAM, 12 core brand new machine) and all my cores being at 60%.
The kicker about that, I did not even see chromium running! I had closed it but the rogue snap processes would not die. I had to sigterm everything and uninstall it.
Then I wanted to install chromium without snap but as the post says - YOU CAN'T! At least not easily enough.
So the solution for me - download Google Chrome after years of using Chromium because you could easily install it natively (I still use Firefox as main browser but sometimes stuff only works in chromium based ones).
It's a total disaster as far as I am concerned. Next time I am reinstalling the OS (hopefully not any time soon since I've just upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04) it will not be ubuntu.
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Well then there is a lot of work to do besides snapping and updates. For a normal user, the INSTANT something goes wrong in Linux, you step from “something kinda like Windows” to “100% Voodoo you are expected to know”
In my experience the average Windows only user is just as clueless when Windows breaks. Which it does, plenty of times.
Think about explaining to grandma over the phone.
It’s just a non-starter for Linux. Which is fine, it’s what it is for a reason. But it’ll never have mass appeal because of it.
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> Honestly I don't have a problem with that. But if they don't give power user the option to opt out, this is just disrespectful The problem is that "power users" can't be trusted to use this power responsibly, or they operate based on assumptions that won't always be true. Either way they end up hurting other people in enough situations that this becomes an ecosystem issue. Power users often help others set up their…
So because perhaps some '"power users" can't be trusted" (in your opinion), that makes it's okay to just take away their own control of their own computers? (That kinda reminds me of "trust us, we're the government and we know what's best for you".) Sorry, but that goes against everything that this whole "free software" thing stands for.
Or, why we have regulations to protect workers. Everyone doesn't have to share your worldview. There are plenty of reasons why these changes are happening. The people making the changes are normally aware of their trade-offs.
Change is the key word. If the world was better before from the perspective of the designer then they are unlikely to have changed anything, or introduced an approach you disagree with. The choice is for you: accept it, or find an alternative. That's they way of the market, no?
>> Sorry, but that goes against everything that this whole "free software" thing stands for.
I agree. Ubuntu is a particular vision of free software. They can do it the way they want. There are way that you can do free software the way that you want to have it.