Ubuntu 20.04 LTS’ snap obsession has snapped me off of it

Post by bdamm » Sat, May 02, 2020, 6:28 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #290

stevepike wrote: post #229

So I run Kubuntu on my work laptop (X1 Carbon) and just upgraded to 20.04 last weekend. I had a vague idea there were different competing standards for "linux apps that work across distribution" but didn't know people had such a problem with snap. It just seemed like a useful tool for installing proprietary stuff that wouldn't normally be packaged by the distribution. I just checked and the snaps I have that aren't f…

It's insecure-by-default. ...which in my mind means it's not really even Linux (hyperbole).

Post by geek_at » Sat, May 02, 2020, 6:29 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #287

nromiun wrote: post #285

> Snap applications auto-update and that’s fine if Ubuntu wants to keep systems secure. But it can’t even be turned off manually. OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already s…

...dumb question: Does this apply to Ubuntu Server as well??? Because if so, I'm sticking with 18.04.

Post by bdamm » Sat, May 02, 2020, 6:30 PM UTC

lukeschlather wrote: post #281

Spooky23 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a consumer, sure. In a business setting, it seems irresponsible to be to allow every random server to have an un-inspectable VPN.

It seems irresponsible to inject devices into your network that that indiscriminately MITM all traffic and can easily be configured to log passwords and auth cookies, no matter what setting you're in.

Post by 0xbadcafebee » Sat, May 02, 2020, 6:32 PM UTC

nromiun wrote: post #285

> Snap applications auto-update and that’s fine if Ubuntu wants to keep systems secure. But it can’t even be turned off manually. OMG. Is this real? This is the exact reason I use Linux instead of Windows 10 or macOS. I am not a grandma who can't stay up to date on tech news. At the least there should be a toggle for power users. But no, you can only defer it. Am I the only one who doesn't like it when your already s…

Post by pikelet » Sat, May 02, 2020, 6:33 PM UTC

ordinaryperson wrote: post #68

capableweb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My two cents, you don't have to agree but thought I'd just add a different perspective. I prefer my own package manager (pacman) over snaps for the following reasons: 1) I like to upgrade on my own schedule. I use my computer for work, and I cannot have things break in the middle of the day or in the morning, just as I get started with work. I usually save upgrades for when I less things to do, so that in case stuff…

My position is not that certain users would prefer to update on their own schedule. Of course there are. Or that new updates sometimes break things and that's a hassle. Of course they do and it is. The problem is if you want to distribute an important security update, what do you do? Ask everyone nicely to upgrade? How? Again, what % of users will manually update their software? Not a lot. For #2, that seems like a r…