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Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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Belgium counts all deaths from care homes as COVID-19 deaths. Hardly a fair comparison, even if I have my gripes with the politics.

This is often problem with comparing covid19 stats, or any stats for that matter.

A better way to compare is excess deaths over seasonal average (or last year's seasonal statistic) per million. That does not tell you exactly how many died of covid-19, but is a more useful comparison.

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

#82

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This is often problem with comparing covid19 stats, or any stats for that matter.

A better way to compare is excess deaths over seasonal average (or last year's seasonal statistic) per million. That does not tell you exactly how many died of covid-19, but is a more useful comparison.

Among the many COVID stat visualization websites out there, are there any which actually provide that statistic?

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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Hopefully some of it remains after. Car centered cities are awful for human beings, we should reclaim some of this space for us.

> Car centered cities are awful for human beings Do you just mean that a car centred city is more noisy and dirty than an economically-equivalent city that has fewer cars? They've been amazing for human beings if you take a broader/longer perspective.

They're pedestrian hostile. That creates a vicious cycle of driving people out to suburbs, hollowing out businesses that would cater to full time residents, making it even less desirable to live there.

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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The stuff I read about Brussels recently on the news tells a different story. To give one example: "Brussels has gone yet further. From May 4, the Belgian capital’s entire city core will be a priority zone for cyclists and pedestrians, one in which cars cannot exceed a speed of 20 kph and must give way in the roads to people on foot or on bikes. This comes on top of an ongoing pedestrianization plan designed to make…

Brussels is run by a socialist/green coalition and has been doing great things for sustainable mobility. Antwerp is run by a populist extreme right neoliberal party.

"extreme right" with no proof? Vlaams Belang is extreme right, not N-VA which has the mayor of Antwerp. You are listening too much to the leftish Wallonian controlled state media ( cfr. Stéphane Moreau with Nethys / Tecteo on Wikipedia)

They just think the south takes too much advantage ( eg. with 4 million people they have the same voting % in the country as the north with 6 million people).

While the "right" north has to subsidize the "socialist" south for more than 40 years without no improvement at all ( eg. just check the unemployment %)

Highest criminality rates in Belgium are in Brussels, Molenbeek, ... with also, no improvement in the foreseeable future. Station north is a public train station where everyone stays away from ( too dangerous ).

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%A9phane_Moreau_(homme_po...

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nethys

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enodia

All financial political scandals are involved with leftisch politicians: Publifin, La Carolorégienne, Anne-Marie Lizin, Michel Daerden, Van Cauwenberghe ( Charleroi), Agusta-Dassault, ...

And last but not last, specific for Brussels: Samusocial where Yvan Mayeur ( the ex-mayor of Brussels) was involved with Fraud and intimidation, with their "non-profit for homeless people", LOL! It's despicable!

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samusocial_Brussels

I'd prefer Antwerp above Brussels every single day of the year.

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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Perhaps look at a different perspective. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilnius#Transport

I lived in NYC for 11 years and I felt trapped. I moved to a rural area and I’m done. Your opinions change as you age.

I.d.k. around here we have sworn by a good network of buses and trains. If I feel trapped I hop on the train, in an hour change to a bus, and I am in the middle of nowhere.

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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post #82

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A better way to compare is excess deaths over seasonal average (or last year's seasonal statistic) per million. That does not tell you exactly how many died of covid-19, but is a more useful comparison.

Among the many COVID stat visualization websites out there, are there any which actually provide that statistic?

>> excess deaths over seasonal average

> are there any which actually provide that statistic?

Sure, as I've linked it here twice already:

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Belgium is among the top three there too.

Also see on ft.com:

https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest

the "Death rates have climbed far above historical averages" graph.

and from Italy, made on March 16, 2020:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Is_COVID-19_like_a_flu%3F...

All of these also directly disprove "same as flu" narration. These are all in spite of most of the world having some kind of measures introduced.

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> they still persist with the idiocy Also, according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries is Belgium at this moment, except for San Marino of only 30,000 inhabitants, the country with the highest death rate in the world from coronavirus epidemics , per million of population: San Marino: 1,208 Belgium: 655 Spain: 519 Italy: 458 UK: 384 France: 369 Netherlands: 275 Sweden: 244 USA: 186 Germany: 77 Gr…

Belgium counts all deaths from care homes as COVID-19 deaths. Hardly a fair comparison, even if I have my gripes with the politics.

Correct.

According to what i read, this means that 50% are confirmed cases and 50% are possible cases.

Other countries only count the confirmed cases.

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A portion of that space is being occupied by a human, but it's not all being used by the human. We both know you know this.

Cars are positive for humans. Dense living conditions like NYC are not sustainable. You burn out. Sometimes you want to get away from all people. Car is essential for this.

Take a bike or train. Or both. It's ridiculous the rest of us have to suffer because people don't want to knock knees with others.

Re: Lithuanian capital to be turned into vast open-air cafe

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post #85

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I lived in NYC for 11 years and I felt trapped. I moved to a rural area and I’m done. Your opinions change as you age.

I.d.k. around here we have sworn by a good network of buses and trains. If I feel trapped I hop on the train, in an hour change to a bus, and I am in the middle of nowhere.

You still depend on train service etc for transportation. Being self sufficient is freedom.
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