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Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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Post by cameronbrown »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #70
tartrate wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Loyal user is a well-recognised term in marketing among other areas meaning someone who keeps using the product over a long period of time. It's not more complicated than that.

Yes, but "loyal user" is in the same box as "target audience" and all the other terms in the marketing vernacular. This is a language of people taking advantage of others, talking about their victims. It makes little sense to use such language voluntarily on yourself.

Marketing speak is mostly drivel to me, but you'll have a hard time convincing most people that the language is somehow oppressive.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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Post by TeMPOraL »

londons_explore wrote: post #127
TeMPOraL wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "finicky to get to connect because everyone has to remember their password" Speaking of that, my last experience with Google Meet in business setting was this: every other meeting someone from our team would disappear in the middle of a call and reappear a minute later. Reason? Google's bullshit random "you need to re-verify yourself and type in your password NOW NOW NOW!" prompt that logs you out until you comply.…

Can someone from the gaia team change the default cookie validity period down by 20 minutes (ie. from 30 days to 29 days, 23 hours, 40 minutes) to resolve this issue?

As silly as it sounds, it would probably resolve this issue perfectly. As I remember, I always got the login prompt at roughly the exact same time into the meeting, suggesting it's just set to expire after a certain amount of whole days.

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Post by RandomBacon »

heyoni wrote: post #136
Traster wrote: post #125

This is great, did they list the financial commitments they made to keeping this product running for a minimum of 10 years? Because I don't see why anyone would migrate to a Google product. If you start using Zoom today, you've got a fair expectation that it will be around for a while. If you start using Microsoft Teams you can be extremely confident it'll be around for heat death of the universe. If you start using…

It’s free though. Not sure what you’re shielding yourself from.

It's not free to write documentation and getting people used to it though.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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Post by darrmit »

gregdoesit wrote: post #115

Can someone tell me the difference between Google Meet, Google Hangouts, Google Duo and Google Chat? Multiple of these support video and chat. I’ve used Hangouts and Chat and Duo before. Why the new brand “Meet”? And why have competing - even more importantly - confusing products at Google who seem to offer the same features? I would like to, but cannot be bullish on Google as a video communications platform for this…

Hangouts used to be a single product that combined video, voice, direct, and group chats. It was quite good, especially with Google Voice layered in.

Google split that in to Meet (video/voice) and Chat (direct/group) in a half-hearted effort to compete with Slack and Microsoft Teams. You could also say they split it further via Google Voice, which became a standalone paid offering.

The issue is they still haven't solved for external chat in Hangouts Chat, which is a critical feature many rely on in legacy Hangouts, so that feature keeps the legacy version running I think.

They really botched the launch of Google Chat. The original deprecation timeline for legacy Hangouts was something like last June.

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Post by lnanek2 »

cameronbrown wrote: post #117
jedberg wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And really with video conferencing product, I don't get the whole trope of "but they might discontinue it." - the utility is immediate in terms of the calls that you make with it, and time boxed till by when a call ends. Not true at all. I have a bunch of recurring meetings in my calendar, and each one has a Zoom link in it. If I wanted to switch to Meet, I'd have to redo each of those invites with a new link, and…

> Not true at all. I have a bunch of recurring meetings in my calendar, and each one has a Zoom link in it. If I wanted to switch to Meet, I'd have to redo each of those invites with a new link, and then hope everyone noticed the update. If you use Google Calendar, I believe a Meet link is automatically added by default. > They won't, so I'll spend the first few weeks individually pinging people reminding them of the…

> That doesn't make sense. Meet is done exclusively through the web browser.

That's not actually an indication that there won't be setup issues. Every new machine my Meet breaks until I hit a bunch of OK boxes and know the secret trick to kill Chrome and restart it before Meet can actually successfully access the camera and share screens and the like.

Had it screw up presentations before where I got a new machine, tried to share a demo window, and of course it wouldn't work until I logged off the call, killed Chrome, and got back in. Big waste of time. Seen the same issue hit other coworkers with new issued laptops.

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Post by ashtonkem »

gregdoesit wrote: post #115

Can someone tell me the difference between Google Meet, Google Hangouts, Google Duo and Google Chat? Multiple of these support video and chat. I’ve used Hangouts and Chat and Duo before. Why the new brand “Meet”? And why have competing - even more importantly - confusing products at Google who seem to offer the same features? I would like to, but cannot be bullish on Google as a video communications platform for this…

I also trust Google about as much as I’m capable of picking up the entire organization and throwing it; not at all. Any product Google releases has a half life of about a year at this point, betting even the tiniest bit of my business on them is a non starter.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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Post by m4rtink »

fraencko wrote: post #41

I use meet professionally on a daily basis as my company is a GApps for business customer and most people I talked to are pretty satisfied. Sound, connection and video quality is very good, far better than Slack in my opinion. We had meetings with more than 100 paticipants. Integration in Google Calendar is also a big plus. One pretty minor thing that bothers me is that the webcam and mic mute toggles and the hang up…

The hiding mute button also really bugs me - given that it something you generally need to have quickly accessible during a meeting, it really should be always visible & on the same spot. BlueJeans has this right - the button is always acesible and not moving around.

As for keyboard shortcuts - unless they are global, they will not work well if they need window focus as that means you still need to find the browser window in which it is running with your cursor and might as well click a button.

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