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Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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What risk is an accountant sitting in SF City Hall taking? High risk positions - sure give them more security. Otherwise, treat them like everyone else. Also, people goto govt jobs because of job security as well - which is also a factor in lower income.

if you are going to cherry-pick, then so be it. what about the police, fire department?

I don't think the police or fire are taking "unprecedented" risks.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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This seems like a great time for Amazon or Google to buy Lyft. Amazon could bundle rides with package deliveries and get the pre-existing driver and passenger network from Lyft. Lyft was actually telling drivers to work with Amazon when the pandemic started (1). Waymo could take Lyft’s aggregated rider demand. They already have a partnership to transfer autonomous rides from Waymo to Lyft during bad weather situation…

I work for Lyft and was part of this cut. I truly worked toward fixing things, and I don't want to sound salty here even though will, there's not much going on with Lyft or Uber to save in terms of tech. It's shoddy and useless. For the most part if Amazon got into the game now, and with their flywheel, they could eat Lyft alive and wait for Uber to bleed dry.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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- The tech companies having issues during covid-19 are all heavily invested in travel/transportation(Uber/Lyft/Airbnb etc). - They also are in industries that entirely use gig workers with personal contact in 90% of their services(airbnb the least of these). - I don't see other tech companies getting hit this hard(the sky is not falling!). - I really, really hope these laid off engineers find other jobs quickly and l…

The tech companies you identified are getting hit 1st. I expect to eventually see fallout in Fintech, Realestate, Advertising, anyone selling B2B SaaS (particularly to marketing/HR/ sales departments, SMB), etc. It will take time to feel the 2nd and 3rd order impacts. Hopefully, we bounce back quickly, but it's hard to not be a little concerned.

> It will take time to feel the 2nd and 3rd order impacts.

Ask people at Sun how relying on the .com economy worked out for the company, as one example.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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It's amazing that the US Federal government seems to be able to provide trillions of dollars in liquidity on a moment's notice to anyone and everyone - except the states. Airlines? Of course. Junk bond investors? Sure, why not? States? "We're not going to bail out Democratic-run states."

Don't forget Carnival Cruise Lines... which doesn't even pay any taxes in the US as a corporation since it flies a flag of convenience and doesn't employ many Americans.

Carnival did not get a bailout: https://thepointsguy.com/news/carnival-did-not-receive-bailo...

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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>Layoffs are mounting We just fired our cleaning crew this morning and cut hours for the entire shop floor. We are a mid-size, midwestern diesel repair shop similar to Western Truck Exchange. I used to just do valve work and major overhauls, now I carry garbage to the dumpster and fix the copiers in the front office too. >alternative work is limited non-existant out here really, but the real thing no one seems to be…

> Oh, those Trump Bucks? the $1200? Not me or a single person ive talked to has gotten that money. That's awful. In Canada, most people got their CERB money within a week. It took 2 days if you already had direct deposit info on there. Some people are refusing to go back to work after the relaxed lockdown because the CERB is more than they make working a few shifts a week. It's a bit frustrating that part-time worker…

I live in Europe, in a more or less decent country, and thankfully, a fair chunk of us don't have to worry a lot about job security/income.

The Canadian move is, unsurprisingly, more forward-thinking than the usual US sleight of hand thing. But I wonder, in these conditions, with minimal incentive to come out, isn't the CERB inflating $CAD?

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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There was an interesting piece in this week's Atlantic on the motivation for having states declare bankruptcy: "Under the Constitution, bankruptcy is a power entirely reserved to the federal government. An American bankruptcy is overseen in federal court, by a federal judge, according to federal law. That’s why federal law can allow U.S. cities to go bankrupt, as many have done over the years. That’s why the financia…

His unwillingness to not solve the state's pension problems should be applauded. the amount of unfunded liabilities is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and approaching a trillion if it has not passed that already. This all happened because the number of public servants who are pulling in over 100k has skyrocketed... 100k+ in retirement.. with millions past 50k! Think about that 50k in pay plus medical. These pe…

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Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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His unwillingness to not solve the state's pension problems should be applauded. the amount of unfunded liabilities is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and approaching a trillion if it has not passed that already. This all happened because the number of public servants who are pulling in over 100k has skyrocketed... 100k+ in retirement.. with millions past 50k! Think about that 50k in pay plus medical. These pe…

This is just crazy to me, this public servants takes unprecedented risks and take lower pays so they can take stable retirement. Now it comes time for due, we don't want to fund these anymore. The entitlement in HN is just too much.

Police, Fire Department, transit workers yes but the vast majority of public servants are not taking "unprecedented risks" when they are at work. They're inspectors, judges, teachers, budget analysts etc.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

#448

This seems like a great time for Amazon or Google to buy Lyft. Amazon could bundle rides with package deliveries and get the pre-existing driver and passenger network from Lyft. Lyft was actually telling drivers to work with Amazon when the pandemic started (1). Waymo could take Lyft’s aggregated rider demand. They already have a partnership to transfer autonomous rides from Waymo to Lyft during bad weather situation…

I work for Lyft and was part of this cut. I truly worked toward fixing things, and I don't want to sound salty here even though will, there's not much going on with Lyft or Uber to save in terms of tech. It's shoddy and useless. For the most part if Amazon got into the game now, and with their flywheel, they could eat Lyft alive and wait for Uber to bleed dry.

I'm sorry for it. Just wondering and want to know your perspective, if teams like ML and Data Science are more of a luxury than a necessity? They're mostly not a revenue generating team and I constantly see them being part of such layoffs.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

#449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was an interesting piece in this week's Atlantic on the motivation for having states declare bankruptcy: "Under the Constitution, bankruptcy is a power entirely reserved to the federal government. An American bankruptcy is overseen in federal court, by a federal judge, according to federal law. That’s why federal law can allow U.S. cities to go bankrupt, as many have done over the years. That’s why the financia…

His unwillingness to not solve the state's pension problems should be applauded. the amount of unfunded liabilities is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and approaching a trillion if it has not passed that already. This all happened because the number of public servants who are pulling in over 100k has skyrocketed... 100k+ in retirement.. with millions past 50k! Think about that 50k in pay plus medical. These pe…

You can easily patch the state revenue holes without fixing the pension obligations. You basically give the states the difference between what they were projecting and what the reality is. By doing this, you fix part of the economy keeping up employment until the private sector can come back online. If you let states fall down right now you are going to turn this into a depression. It just means the beginning of Lyft’s troubles.

There is nothing to applaud with his actions or statements. It’s just malicious and gives the rest of the world a chance to out compete America.

Re: Lyft lays off 17% of workforce, furloughs hundreds more

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His unwillingness to not solve the state's pension problems should be applauded. the amount of unfunded liabilities is in the hundreds of billions of dollars and approaching a trillion if it has not passed that already. This all happened because the number of public servants who are pulling in over 100k has skyrocketed... 100k+ in retirement.. with millions past 50k! Think about that 50k in pay plus medical. These pe…

People need to understand, the value of a 100% of final-salary pension for people earning 100K retiring at 55-60 is likely millions . It's even worse with the games people play with PTO and other benefits (where they bump pay 20-30% in their last year to get that pension benefit for the rest of their lives). Look at the average retiree's 401(k) balance for comparison and it gets pretty clear how unfair this is. There…

It's one thing to "restructure" the comp package for future employees, and something else to change compensation arrangements retroactively after your employers have upheld their end of the deal.
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