Earlier quoted context omitted.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble , and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
What law did Congress pass?
Free America Now (@elonmusk)
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Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't run for President in the US if you were not born in the US, even if you are American.
That's not true, else Ted Cruz wouldn't have been able to run for President in 2016. Cruz was born in Calgary. His mother is an American, father Canadian. The requirement in the Constitution is only that one must be a "natural born citizen".
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#83He might just want to do it as e.g Germany does it. i.e. basically opening most smaller and some bigger businesses. shops with limited people at the same time, masks, hygiene procedures etc. schools more or less closed until end of summer. Though Germany already has receding numbers for a while now, US is still a little behind. Total number of cases vs deaths is (if counted and reported correctly in worldometers) qui…
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think so. And his tweets aren't really aging well... https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960
He also implied there won't be more than 0.1% of the US population infected overall, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1239755145233289217
But - and here is the rub - it will be because the lockdown interrupted person-to-person transfers, and not because the inert bases making up the virus suddenly decided all by themselves, and all over the world, to lower their R0 from > 3 to < 1.
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#85Easy to dismiss him because of his wealth or other prejudices you may have of him. "Free America Now" raises an incredibly important debate that all lockdown-ridden countries should be having. Were lockdowns constitutional? Were lockdowns effective? Could other measured responses have achieved similar outcomes? Were lockdowns done in vain? And have we set a dangerous precedent? Bunch of questions. Don't flame him or…
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/pandemic-economy-less...
https://www.ssrn.com/abstract=3561560
To summarize, during the 1918 flu pandemic, American cities that implemented early and extensive non-medical measures (including quarantines) suffered no additional adverse economic effects due to implementing those measures when compared with cities that implemented measures late or not at all.
http://webarchive.loc.gov/all/20150111194407/http://www.hist...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3291414
Again, to summarize, American Samoa and New Caledonia succeeded in preventing even a single death from the 1918 influenza through effective quarantines.
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#86Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based on what data?
Based on the drop in cases, ludicrously low infection and death rates, the need to balance healthcare system burden with a speedy development of herd immunity,and the economic devastation. People can’t just say “it’s worth it if we save just one life”. Bullshit. Everything requires context, and being under lockdown has its own severe consequences. Including the loss of life.
Friday and Saturday saw the highest single day totals of new cases.
==ludicrously low infection and death rates==
Nobody knows these rates because we can’t test enough people to know infection rates. People are dying at home so it will be a while until we know actual death rates.
==speedy development of herd immunity==
You and your family should jump to the front line and help build this immunity. I’ll protect my 2 year-old and pregnant wife in our home.
All we have to do is look to the 1918 flu to see the danger of opening up too soon. Making up strawman quotes from your “opposition” doesn’t change the data on this virus or the history of past viruses.
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#88His production operations are notoriously behind schedule and only accelerate by throwing more (literal) bodies at the problem.
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble , and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
What law did Congress pass?
Re: Free America Now (@elonmusk)
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Based on what data?
Based on the drop in cases, ludicrously low infection and death rates, the need to balance healthcare system burden with a speedy development of herd immunity,and the economic devastation. People can’t just say “it’s worth it if we save just one life”. Bullshit. Everything requires context, and being under lockdown has its own severe consequences. Including the loss of life.
(EDIT: also from what I’ve seen it is entirely possible that infection results in long term reduction in health like lung capacity. That’s super fucked if we infect everyone in that case!)