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Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by alpha_squared »

rubiquity wrote: post #79
holler wrote: post #52

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I've heard nothing but negative reviews about Chime from amazon employee's whom have to use it daily...

Disclaimer: I work at AWS. I use Chime and love it. Its lack of features is a feature in my opinion. I used Slack for years before using Chime and I’m happy with the switch. I don’t get nearly the chat fatigue I used to get from Slack. Chime reminds me of HipChat and Campfire in terms of UX but with the availability you’d expect an AWS service to have.

As someone who recently did the remote on-site via Chime, its stability left a lot to be desired. Audio dropped regularly and constant video freezes. It felt a little half-baked and dog-fooded internally and, by extension, externally to interviewees. Nearly every person who interviewed me also expressed some unhappiness with Chime as well. This is all anecdotal, of course.

It mostly just feels like a byproduct of not-built-here syndrome.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by snazz »

cmauniada wrote: post #63
klohto wrote: post #53

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I'm out of the loop, what did they do with ES (except for providing unstable service...)?

They have a habit of copying open source software and re-branding it as their own. Here is an article. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/15/technology/amazon-aws-clo...

That’s not the same thing as using their customers’ data to compete against their customers.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by Arelius »

rubiquity wrote: post #79
holler wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard nothing but negative reviews about Chime from amazon employee's whom have to use it daily...

Disclaimer: I work at AWS. I use Chime and love it. Its lack of features is a feature in my opinion. I used Slack for years before using Chime and I’m happy with the switch. I don’t get nearly the chat fatigue I used to get from Slack. Chime reminds me of HipChat and Campfire in terms of UX but with the availability you’d expect an AWS service to have.

Meh, it's fine for 1:1 chat, but I hate it's group chat support. It's just messy and hard to manage. On the other hand, it's VC support is top notch.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

#94

Post by mav3rick »

searchableguy wrote: post #24
outside1234 wrote: post #7

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The truth hurts sometimes. Also, isn't GCP deprecated?

I really wonder what hn has against google. This place sometimes feel like a witch hunt ground

Many of these people will take the high comp jobs at Google. Many of them also openly state they are salty at being rejected in Google interviews.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by Nyr »

suyash wrote: post #21
Jonnax wrote: post #16

Is Oracle cloud any good? Is it like the other providers where you can take a credit card and use? Or do you need to give your soul to oracle?

Yes, we have a free $300 Credit and also Always Free Cloud Services just like other Cloud Vendors, give it a shot. (PS I work at Oracle). https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/

I feel like it's relevant to mention that Oracle recently disabled all of the free tier virtual machines from every one of their cloud customers and after like a week of downtime with no public announcements, they were somehow restored.

So yeah, that should give everyone a pretty good idea of their reliability if they are not multi-million dollar customers.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by abledon »

btown wrote: post #50

For those who may think Oracle may have moments of nuance, it's always worth listening to Brian Cantrill's epic rant on Oracle and lawnmowers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=34m7s

i wonder what would happen if Larry was forced to do a 10 day vipassana

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by rubiquity »

Arelius wrote: post #93
rubiquity wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I work at AWS. I use Chime and love it. Its lack of features is a feature in my opinion. I used Slack for years before using Chime and I’m happy with the switch. I don’t get nearly the chat fatigue I used to get from Slack. Chime reminds me of HipChat and Campfire in terms of UX but with the availability you’d expect an AWS service to have.

Meh, it's fine for 1:1 chat, but I hate it's group chat support. It's just messy and hard to manage. On the other hand, it's VC support is top notch.

I agree with that. I dislike having to start a new group chat just to add a new person.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by vxNsr »

djannzjkzxn wrote: post #80
partiallypro wrote: post #30

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My guess is simply, they don't want to fund their own competitors. Microsoft is a direct competitor already (so is Google,) and who knows what Amazon will do. That really only leaves IBM and Oracle. I've always been baffled when someone hosts on their competitors' platform. Like Netflix hosting on AWS, and Grocery Stores hosting on AWS. Microsoft & Google rarely have that problem (except on this one.)

If the amount of revenue you are going to give is a rounding error for AWS, you are not going to move the needle on the funding of their other projects. This should be a non-factor in your decision-making process.

Lots of insiders claim that amazon looks at its competitor's traffic and usage data for ideas. kinda like how grocery stores know which generics to make based on which types of foods do well.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by djannzjkzxn »

vxNsr wrote: post #98
djannzjkzxn wrote: post #80

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If the amount of revenue you are going to give is a rounding error for AWS, you are not going to move the needle on the funding of their other projects. This should be a non-factor in your decision-making process.

Lots of insiders claim that amazon looks at its competitor's traffic and usage data for ideas. kinda like how grocery stores know which generics to make based on which types of foods do well.

That theory is discussed in other threads. I’m just responding to the “funding the competition” argument, which is a different angle.

Re: Zoom taps Oracle for cloud deal, passing over Amazon, Microsoft

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Post by Arelius »

alpha_squared wrote: post #91
rubiquity wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I work at AWS. I use Chime and love it. Its lack of features is a feature in my opinion. I used Slack for years before using Chime and I’m happy with the switch. I don’t get nearly the chat fatigue I used to get from Slack. Chime reminds me of HipChat and Campfire in terms of UX but with the availability you’d expect an AWS service to have.

As someone who recently did the remote on-site via Chime, its stability left a lot to be desired. Audio dropped regularly and constant video freezes. It felt a little half-baked and dog-fooded internally and, by extension, externally to interviewees. Nearly every person who interviewed me also expressed some unhappiness with Chime as well. This is all anecdotal, of course. It mostly just feels like a byproduct of not…

anecdotally, having used it internally before I left. I found that VC stability top-notch, I had some stability problems using the web client, but those had mostly resolved within the few months before I left.

I now find my self yearning for the stability of Chime outside of using Zoom. and using Zoom, feel a concern for my privacy in a way I have never using an AWS product.

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