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Did you know that you can't use copyright to protect an algorithm?

But you can copyright the most efficient implementations.

You can only copyright the text of the source code, as if it was literature. Write your own source code to implement the same algorithm using the same efficient techniques, and you're fine (as long as it isn't patented.)

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Not if making money is fun for you.

What if you can only have fun making the puppets while simultaneously murdering someone? Following your logic, Disney endorses murder. Complete nonsense.

@DangitBobby Making money off of someone else's IP is illegal though.

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Copyright is fairly applied to Disney. There were many beneficiaries to its extension, large and small. In any case, it is a matter of law, just like earlier, shorter copyright protections were. It's totally legitimate to favor shorter copyright, but essentially any duration is an arbitrary one. It strikes me as odd that you would be interested in applying the law fairly while also referring to the law as a perversio…

> There were many beneficiaries to its extension, large and small. The public did not benefit in any way from its extension. Quite the opposite: every time the duration of copyright terms is extended, the public is robbed of its rights so that corporations which have already made billions off of their copyrighted works can make even more money. When was the last time some copyrighted work entered the public domain? P…

I'm not a fan of copyright law, so don't take this limited factual response as an attempt at a general refutation of your points.

>When was the last time some copyrighted work entered the public domain?

January 1st, 2020: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_in_public_domain

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The implementations are short and simple for easy reading, so they are not the most efficient or practical. Early versions of the code had bugs, so you should not use the old versions of the book.

The key is to do what Steven Muchnick did for his Compiler textbook: Write the algorithms in a made up programming language so no one can run them and find the bugs. I'm not being facetious, it's called ICAN, and as far as I can tell no compiler exists for it. Other than that it's a great book though, although maybe showing its age in that there isn't much discussion of OOO and ILP etc. And SSA.

As I understand it, Lisp was originally expected to be a teaching or proof language with no implementation, then it got implemented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_(programming_language)#Hi...

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Some would argue that the undefined duration does not match “limited times” and that the copyright is no longer “promoting useful arts”. While some of these questions have been answered in Disney’s favour in recent times, it is clear that the “matter of law” is anything but clear.

This was adjudicated up to the Supreme Court: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2002/01-618 tl;dr: 7-2 as long as there is some type of time limitation, Congress is free to extend copyright terms.

Cool, so why not set the limit to the heat-death of the universe and be done with it?

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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At a rummage sale a few years ago, I bought a book published by Disney in the 1960s or 1970s which had instructions on how to make Mickey Mouse puppets. It also said to "have fun" making them. Selling things for a profit is a lot of fun. As far as I'm concerned, I now have a perpetual, transferable license to make and sell Mickey Mouse puppets. I even asked a lawyer.

This reminds me of a book called "numerical recipes in C", full of algorithms that were very useful except you couldn't really use them because the authors protected their use with a very restrictive license.

Amusingly, I had the old "Numerical Recipes" before there were versions for the different languages. Since I was writing in BASIC and then Pascal, I had no hope but to re-write the code myself anyway, and I couldn't afford to update when the new editions came out.

Not too long ago, a colleague asked me if I had a good code for linear regression, and I sent him a copy of the page from my undergraduate data analysis textbook, which had it in FORTRAN IV.

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Somehow, to me, it's even slimier when it's a subset of posts is a targeted hijacking of an injoke made by fans for fans that predates their ownership of the property. It's not blanket maliciousness against all users, it's targeted maliciousness to steal from them.

What is Disney stealing in your mind? the tweets or the hashtag?

They are taking ownership of the idea of May the 4th. If this seems ridiculous, then don’t look at Disney’s business model. They dish out billions to buy the rights to ideas as flimsy as this one.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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What happens if someone replies with IP not owned by Disney and they use it?

One of two things:

1) No one complains, Disney uses the content and life goes on.

2) Someone complains, Disney takes that tweet down and replaces it with a different tweet and life goes on.

Disney is not going to court over a tweet. They'll just take it down if someone complains.

Also, under copyright law Disney will not "own" any of the IP in these tweets, the question is whether they have a license to use it.

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