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Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by anoncake »

hpoe wrote: post #11

Anyone that responds to this thread legally agrees to surrender all intellectual property posted or mentioned by them in any manner on the internet messaging forum hackernews located at news dot ycombinator dot com, hereunder referred to as the interweb place, will be the sole property of hpoe and those he chooses to designate. These terms may not be modified, altered, or amended except with written agreement of both…

> Anyone that responds to this thread legally

> You agree to not use the Site to: email or otherwise upload [...] software viruses

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Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by jedberg »

tomcooks wrote: post #57

How do you fuck up so bad marketing to one of the biggest fanbases in the universe?

You start by making a trilogy with no coherent story across the three movies that ends by basically undoing the first two trilogies and go from there.

(For the record I enjoyed the last three movies as general fantasy movies, they just didn't fit all that well into the mythology).

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by squarefoot »

hprotagonist wrote: post #43
hpoe wrote: post #11

Anyone that responds to this thread legally agrees to surrender all intellectual property posted or mentioned by them in any manner on the internet messaging forum hackernews located at news dot ycombinator dot com, hereunder referred to as the interweb place, will be the sole property of hpoe and those he chooses to designate. These terms may not be modified, altered, or amended except with written agreement of both…

“But the plans were on display…” “On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.” “That’s the display department.” “With a flashlight.” “Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.” “So had the stairs.” “But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Bew…

At least Vogon poetry is less harmful than Disney drones tweets.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by qppo »

mangoman wrote: post #17

I think the value of hiring more experienced folks to run social media (i.e. not an intern, someone with any amount of experience) is that they can actually point out how ridiculous this will come off, and argue against this type of tweet. It really doesn't take that much corporate self awareness to see how bad it looks to try to force TOS on free speech on a public forum.

The Walt Disney Corporation doesn't have social media run by interns, they have one of the more active and experienced social media apparatuses out there. They have to, they're one of the largest media companies in the world.

Ironically they militantly protect their brand, and have conflicting mandates and reasons for doing so (it's not just to keep the image, it's to keep others from deriving value from their brand). Sometimes those mandates interfere with each other, like we see here.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

ScoutOrgo wrote: post #85

What happens if someone replies with IP not owned by Disney and they use it?

In general, is a tweet long enough to be a work for copyright purposes? Anyone know of any copyright caselaw around tweets?

I can imagine some poems being complete works and fitting in the character limit, perhaps.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by MattGrommes »

mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I took this as more like when you write a letter to a magazine and they say to write "Ok to print" so they can use it later. If you send them a message for use in MayThe4th celebrations, they can then use it in promotions.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by Frost1x »

michaelhoffman wrote: post #47
kayodelycaon wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It really doesn't take that much corporate self awareness I think you underestimate how well anyone in management actually understands this. One job had me constantly pushing back on three or more paragraphs of legal text in the damndest of places. In one case, the legal text was larger than the form itself to say "we need your email to contact you with changes related to your account". Every time I contacted our c…

In many organizations, legal boilerplate has nothing to do with what's reasonable in the law or even what a lawyer thinks is necessary.

Much text in business has become the ever growing wrapper for:

"As the writer, I get as much monetary value as I can or at least make you believe as such and you give up as much monetary value as possible, or at least as much as I can scare or deter you from seeking. I also have no responsibilities and all rights, while you have all responsibilities and no rights."

It's simply expanded out a bit more and often gives explicit examples. It's completely unmanageable for any common citizen to process and understand what you almost have to agree to on daily basis to function in our ever more privatized world.

The amount of garbage I see on a daily basis wrapped with passive aggressive legal threats around every corner is mind numbing. I even still get emails from people who add footers that they own the information and if you receive it wrongfully, you're "required" to delete it.

We essentially have a bunch of children running around running society through businesses driven by greed who never fully socially developed into functioning reasonable and responsible adults.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by coffeevradar »

ballenf wrote: post #86
mholt wrote: post #44

Update from Disney: > The above legal language applies ONLY to replies to this tweet using #MayThe4th and mentioning @DisneyPlus . These replies may appear in something special on May the 4th! https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1254849654585323525 ... as if that's really any better.

I love the precedent that Disney is setting here. Will be a little harder for them to argue against my Tweet next month: "Walt Disney World was awesome! Thanks to all the hard workers who made the day special. By replying to this Tweet, Disney Corp. hereby agrees to abide by the copyright laws in place as of the release dates of its motion pictures, instead of the longer dates obtained through perversion of the legal…

Copyright is fairly applied to Disney. There were many beneficiaries to its extension, large and small. In any case, it is a matter of law, just like earlier, shorter copyright protections were.

It's totally legitimate to favor shorter copyright, but essentially any duration is an arbitrary one. It strikes me as odd that you would be interested in applying the law fairly while also referring to the law as a perversion.

Re: Disney claims anyone using a Twitter hashtag is agreeing to their terms of use

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Post by robin_reala »

samdunham wrote: post #34

Everything everyone posts on Twitter can be used by anyone for any reason. It's in the Twitter TOS. Disney didn't even need to post anything, they could have just used your tweets for whatever they wanted to use them for.

https://twitter.com/en/tos#intlTerms

“You retain your rights to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Services. What’s yours is yours — you own your Content (and your incorporated audio, photos and videos are considered part of the Content).”

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