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My family and I are on day number 1153 of eating beans every day (and no animal products)
I've had vegetarian rice and beans many times, forced to by lack of money for protein. It's just a bland mixture of sadness and despair
2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees
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Well, that raises further questions. How could a chicken farm or chicken meat in a freezer be more efficient forms of calorie storage than a grain silo or a shipment of flour? Do you have a source?
Because frozen meat stays good literally forever. Flour eventually goes bad. Grain can rot.
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Just because you live in a more developed country, it doesn't make you responsible for well-being of people from less developed ones. We're adults who are capable of making our own decision decisions and being responsible for the consequences, and this modern leftist rebranding of white man's burden is a bit insulting, to be honest.
Then why is the white man in Iraq, Afghanistan ( bordering just Pakistan ), Somalia, Libya, Yemen, Syria - and those are just boots on the ground. Even the "living space" that is North America, Australia didn't belong to the White Man.
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Given that the likely average age difference between species is measured in the hundreds of millions of years, I doubt that anything we do would shock them at all. We are likely too inconsequential to even bother with examination.
> We are likely too inconsequential to even bother with examination. I was with you until this part, there's simply no way that's true. Even if the universe was brimming with life, an advance species' scientists and would be foaming at the mouth to discover a new sentient species, just like ours do when we discover something new.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
My family and I are on day number 1153 of eating beans every day (and no animal products)
I've had vegetarian rice and beans many times, forced to by lack of money for protein. It's just a bland mixture of sadness and despair
Not to mention that there's lots of variety of ingredients, you don't need to eat beans every day ;)
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Thanks for asking! but unfortunately I haven't written anything up about it, but informally I can share that it's really benefited our health and even finances. Eating beans and rice every day and not eating out is very cheap. I buy most of our food in bulk online or from local farms - e.g. just got 50kg of chickpeas in the mail and 20kg of string beans from a farm. We also avoid eating oil for health reasons
The minimum daily intake of carbs for a human to remain healthy is zero. The minimum daily intake of oil is in fact, not zero, as oils are required for the basic functioning of a human.
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So much metaphysical blabbery to justify cruelty.
The metaphysical blabbery is the justification for this idea to judge raising animals for slaughter as cruel. It's not blabbery to question it.
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We live in a bubble, I feel so out of touch with how people live in many of the other places in the world. Last October I visited Pakistan and what I saw there really made me think about the scale of globally inequality that’s just allowed to “exist”. Not just in food, but so many other places in our lives we take for granted.
Pakistan is a lot of human created issues though. They have the most fertile land in the subcontinent along the indus river. However they have had absolutely no population control measures unlike India and Bangladesh which are almost at replacement level fertility. Throw in a backward society, mismanagement, lack of democracy and you get this. My point simply is that the hunger is not merely because of shortage of fo…
To give a very short version of his conclusions: the only factor reducing births is reduced child mortality. Better healthcare and generally better economic prospects and birth rates drop on their own - no need for central planning or interventions. The book lays the evidence out extremely well and if you're a person that likes to have his/her worldview challenged I warmly recommend it!
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#129Taking a critical look at one's own meat consumption can be enlightening, because it is something that we often take for granted. Do I eat meat because it is necessary for my health? If not, what are the reasons? How is the meat that I'm eating produced? How long do these animals live compared to their natural life span? What is the environmental cost of animal farming? Etc., Etc. I did not find convincing answers to…
I eat hamburgers because they are delicious. I assume that the ethical, ecological, and societal impacts of that decision is somehow internalize in the price. I know I am wrong - but I hope that becomes true one day.
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#130While people in developing countries will be suffering shortly because of lack of protein and malnutrition, I'm sure many in the West will celebrate this as a great step towards veganism.
And animal protein consumes a lot of plant protein to make. If you want to feed people it's much more efficient to send over the soj and grain the chickens are fed, rather than the chicken meat.