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2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I don't get it. If they had enough employees, then these processing plants wouldn't kill 2M chickens? I think these birds were doomed. A more accurate title might be "Processors throw away 2M Pounds of chicken meat due to lack of employees."

I think the word prematurely is missing

> I think the word prematurely is missing

If its a the processing plant that's kind of true, even if they could run them through the automated 'harvesting' system its probably really expensive to store until an undisclosed time for it to be processed and then sent to market. At a significant loss in Market price, I imagine. So its best to take the subsidy/insured loss and restart again.

This is actually really fucking sad... I hope it encourages more people to focus on the World's broken food supply and its immense waste and do something about it. I hope we don't have to see the same thing that happened with toilet paper, and paper towels happen with our food before people get the message that we have to re-think our entire infrastructure.

> Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day.

That's a horrible calculus, and quite frankly stereotypical of People so detached from their food system: have you taken into consideration the externalities of hatching, raising, and ultimately getting them to Market size? It's actually incredibly costly. And they were probably factory farmed, which makes it even worse given the cruel practices involved.

On a positive note: Spring is finally here, and I saw a bunch of people's Community Garden's today.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I am disappointed, Does anybody can act to not waste all this food in this time?

> I am disappointed, Does anybody can act to not waste all this food in this time?

Yes: you! That's what it takes, if I'm honest.

But if you're asking about startups, yes there is on based out of Texas and Colorado called Food Maven:

https://foodmaven.com/

Check out Roy Choi's PBS series Breaking bread, its all good, there they highlight how other places have tackled this issue in regards to environmental impact, local economic commerce, and food insecurity. It's really a rad series, and makes me glad Roy has gotten the success that he has!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrV8WrqnyrM

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.

Not waste this amount of life

If it makes you feel any better, you may regard yourself complicit every time you leave a scrap of meat on your plate.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.

Think about it. "Wasting" food is identical to overproduction of food. That's slack in the system that prevents people from starving.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Americans eat 24M chickens per day. So 2M killed is only a fraction of the number eaten in a single day. However it's still deplorable that we can't find a way to not waste this amount of food.

Americans go through 24M chickens a day, but a significant portion isn't eaten. Think of all the food thrown away at restaurants because it sat too long, food that goes bad in the fridge (oops! guilty), food that kids get served but don't eat (as a parent, I see this a lot).

While it is disturbing to hear this, I'm sure this amount of chicken meat is wasted on a daily, or at least close to it.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a bubble, I feel so out of touch with how people live in many of the other places in the world. Last October I visited Pakistan and what I saw there really made me think about the scale of globally inequality that’s just allowed to “exist”. Not just in food, but so many other places in our lives we take for granted.

Why do you think these conditions exist in Pakistan? Hint, it mainly has to do with the actions of certain Pakistanis. The rest of us are not "allowing" anything, we are basically powerless and irrelevant aside from maybe our trade policies.

Powerless and irrelevant? Some keywords:

US nukes Pakistan Afghanistan India Taliban politics cold war history army

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I don't remember who but someone (Naval?) had this quote that generations 100 years from now will think of us as utterly barbaric for eating animals. When I look around how we treat animals as if they were just sacs of meat, its amazingly heart wrenching. In Alaska I saw a casual 4th of July competitions where you throw dead fish and other person catches it. Sometime fish fall apart and all its guts spread out during…

The idea that humans evolve somehow into better beings is an unjustified religion. You shouldn't let technological progress fool you, we are nearly the same as we were 1 million years ago. Raising domesticated animals for slaughter is actually pretty humane. Before agriculture and farming, when people moved to an area it led to the extinction of all large animals and they died in agony. For many of us human life is m…

> We evolved feelings, morals, the concept of cruelty in order to care about human life. You can choose to care about whatever you want of course, but careful with your priorities.

I would not be so sure about feelings and morals. Cruelty yes, has evolved a lot.

> And yes, chickens aren't human and are quite tasty.

Those grown naturally, yes. Those grown in a plant not so.

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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I think chickens are ground up with their feathers and ugly bits by falling from a treadmill. I guess one can't sell that as food but I'm pretty sure they can do something with it. Although, it's fine by me, meat is in its nature pretty wasteful, in addition to those 2M chickens there's probably more tons of soy protein wasted on chicken feed. Good thing that protein rich legumes do not need much processing.

My family and I are on day number 1153 of eating beans every day (and no animal products)

Re: 2M chickens to be killed in US processing plants due to lack of employees

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post #13

I don't remember who but someone (Naval?) had this quote that generations 100 years from now will think of us as utterly barbaric for eating animals. When I look around how we treat animals as if they were just sacs of meat, its amazingly heart wrenching. In Alaska I saw a casual 4th of July competitions where you throw dead fish and other person catches it. Sometime fish fall apart and all its guts spread out during…

How is your value system not as arbitrary (plants ok to kill, but not animals)? Is it just because it’s impossible to survive without consuming other life given our current technology? In 1000 years perhaps humans will look at our treatment of all life as barbaric because they will be directly powered by the energy of the sun.

I'm surprised your comment is being downvoted. There was an article shared on HN last year and suggesting plants are more aware than what we typically give credit to them. I also don't think its completely out there to assume humanity won't be modifying how the human body consumes energy.
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