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Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by proverbialbunny »

1over137 wrote: post #69
read_if_gay_ wrote: post #66

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The screens aren’t matte, but they have a pretty decent anti-glare coating. There’s also no way around using the trackpad sometimes. Using i3 and Vim keybindings wherever possible, I still need my trackpad enough that its relatively poor quality is annoying.

>The screens aren’t matte, but they have a pretty decent anti-glare coating. I guess it must be subjective, because I find they are horribly glossy. I'm still using an old matte Macbook for this reason.

The earlier glossy MBPs were pretty reflective, and I stuck with a matte MBP for years too because of it, but for a while now using the current "glossy" MBP screens I do not see reflections in them if the screen is on. It's to the point I forgot the screen is glossy. Thankfully it just works the way you want it to.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by jeremyjh »

ohwel2l wrote: post #49

Somewhat unrelated but do we still need Docker Desktop for Mac to run Docker containers on macOS? Why is that, is it because Linux is needed? Couldn't Docker run containers natively using just macOS?

I'm sure you could make a native containers ecosystem for MacOS, but Docker containers contain software which is written for and compiled on Linux, and they need a Linux kernel to run. Docker containers do not provide a kernel - it uses the host. It is literally no different than taking any binary compiled on Linux or Windows and asking why it won't run on MacOS.

So even if Docker supported a native container system on MacOS, it would be useless because no Linux Docker images could run on it.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by davidwparker »

inanutshellus wrote: post #47
aguyfromnb wrote: post #36

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> You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. Apple makes kick-ass machines, but I see Macbook Pros everywhere . How many people in the real world need a $2000+ computer? If these people aren't buying it for the logo, what are they buying it for? Apple has positioned themselves as a lifestyle brand. How can you deny that?

One counterpoint - Trust in quality. I'm looking at buying a laptop right now and I can either buy an apple MBP ... OR a MONSTER laptop with much better specs for the same-or-less price. I'm hand-wringing over it. With past laptops I've only been disappointed by the non-Apple laptops I've had. Bad ram, bad battery, bad battery again, bad battery AGAIN, slow-for-hardware-misfiring issues... or the Apple that has been…

For what it's worth, I recently switched from a 2015 MBP to a Thinkpad. I was on OSX for ~9 years, and dual boot Linux/Windows for the ~7 before that.

The quality on this laptop is amazing. The keyboard works (have a friend who took his new MBP to Apple 3x in the first month due to keyboard issues). The trackpad is amazing (they used to not be so). I'll be on these machines for the coming years (probably ~6-10 based on my history, then back to OSX).

Edit: it was also ~$1000 cheaper for equivalent specs as the MBP.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by proverbialbunny »

insideBig3 wrote: post #44
Sangeppato wrote: post #38

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Yeah I don't get it either. Without macOS, a MacBook doesn't make any sense IMHO

This is why I can't understand the appeal of a MacBook. You have the Apple burden, the Apple costs, what benefits? The touchpad? The showoff luxury of a lighted logo?

Macbooks are mostly bought by companies in the tech industry, which is how Apple can get away with charging high prices for them. Companies don't barter. They'll pay whatever the price. This too is why upgrades home users do not need cost an arm and a leg.

Why are MBs and MBPs used in the tech industry? Many types of dev roles can only be done well on Linux or OSX (or BSD), because they're writing software for servers or their software runs on servers. The company has to choose. Some companies go exclusively Linux for their desktops and OSX for their laptops. Some go exclusively laptop. Linux does have mature enough laptops for consumers, but for business use on the laptop side Linux hasn't gone far enough. I have yet to run into a company that doesn't offer laptops because of remote and partial remote work being so common, along with needing to take your work computer into meeting rooms from time to time.

In short, it depends on the industry you're in, and if you're not in those industries you probably haven't seen it, but what fuels most Macbook sales is businesses.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by wuunderbar »

This might be great "because we can" or to recycle old MacBooks, but to me the whole point of having a Macbook is the tight, native integration with its hardware.

I pay the premium for Apple precisely because everything just works, and works well. (Barring the occasional bugs...)

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by r4mbini »

LeonM wrote: post #9
r4mbini wrote: post #2

Do you know of a way to get OSX key bindings on Ubuntu?

The key bindings are the least of your worries when trying to run Linux on a Mac... But FWIW: on Linux key bindings are always completely customizable.

I'm running Ubuntu on my custom build desktop PC but with a wired apple keyboard. I also use Macs quite a lot. If I could get consistency between the two with key bindings it would be so good.

I'll have a dig for customising them

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by r4mbini »

aspenmayer wrote: post #8
r4mbini wrote: post #2

Do you know of a way to get OSX key bindings on Ubuntu?

There are many ways. I honestly don’t type enough in Linux on my Mac to need that but Kinto looks like it does what you want, is reversible, is per application configurable, and is aware of cursor/caret state. https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto

Thank you for your reply. 'Make linux type like a mac, the zero effort solution'. Exactly what I'm after!

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by ngcc_hk »

What you need is Microsoft like linux VM environment, with direct support by Apple. But even boot camp ... but competition might help. When developer moves to windows for its linux Env., it may trigger then to rethink about mac. But probably not. Sadly.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by quantummkv »

jeremyjh wrote: post #105
quantummkv wrote: post #76

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The screen will still be the same regardless of the OS. It's advantages would not change.

Battery life will definitely suffer.

That's mostly a software issue and can be rectified. The 4.18 kernel doubled my battery life
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