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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by brobinson »

core-questions wrote: post #345
brobinson wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See my edit. I'm 100% pro-ROC and 100% anti-PRC. Calling the ROC and its other non-Taiwan holdings "Taiwan" helps the PRC with their "Taiwan is a province of China" narrative. First time I, a stringent anti-communist, have ever been called a PRC shill. There's zero chance I'd be allowed to enter the PRC if they can see my internet posting history.

So why not simply declare Taiwan to be a country de-facto, despite a bunch of governments who suck up to China pretending otherwise? Who gets to decide what a "country" is?

Are you advocating for separating the island of Taiwan from the ROC? I'm honestly not sure what you're getting at here.

The ROC has already been an independent entity for over 100 years. There is nothing new in this situation that needs to be declaring independence. If the ROC amends its constitution to remove "China" from its official name, the PRC will attack instantly (they've said as much).

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Post by logicchains »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #571
etangent wrote: post #561

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This comment has so much elitism in it I can smell the grey poupon from across the wire.

You're right. We're so much better off when a significant segment of the population believes that the Secretary of State is pimping out children from a pizza restaurant.

Yes, because the idea of rich, influential men pimping out children in modern America is simply unthinkable and certainly hasn't happened recently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

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Post by koheripbal »

mmazing wrote: post #315
subhobroto wrote: post #21

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. WHO is a political organization with medical leanings just like Fox News is an entertainment channel that covers newslike topics. Yes, there's a lot of information out there about SARS-COV2 and COVID-19 infections out there that are downright misleading at best and life threatening at worst. No, censoring that content including videos is NOT the role of a hosting platfo…

In the age of misinformation, how do we better equip our society to know (or even desire to know) what is accurate information? I think it's easy to think of censorship as the answer, and it's easy to think that in this extreme circumstance that it's the answer. Maybe it is a slippery slope. It is a problem though. People aren't doing a very good job of handling it on their own, either. So what's the answer? Genuinel…

The answer is reputation. Organizations need to market their dedication to objectivity - the processes they combat their own biases and the ability they have to cover different perspectives.

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Post by empthought »

o_p wrote: post #506
bad_user wrote: post #442

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What WHO is saying is that there is no solid proof that wearing a mask will do much to protect you. And they are correct in saying that. They do not say that masks offer no protection. They also don't say that you shouldn't wear masks. Actual scientists give advice based on available evidence. When there is no evidence, or available evidence is too weak, they don't give that advice and they also don't fall in the tra…

Thats why you shouldnt hear scientists for advice and use your brain. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. If you wear a mask and doesnt have effect, nothing happens, if it does, thats a benefit, so you can only win by wearing one. You can be rational and completly dumb at the same time.

“If you wear a tinfoil hat and doesn’t have effect, nothing happens. If it does, that’s a benefit, so you can only win by wearing one.”

Not disagreeing on masks, but your argument here is a real stinker.

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Post by mehrdadn »

logifail wrote: post #121

Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

That's not contradictory. You wear masks whenever your local laws or WHO tell you to, and you satisfy both of them.

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Post by brobinson »

nl wrote: post #539
brobinson wrote: post #204

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Right, calling the ROC and all of its holdings "Taiwan" just muddies the conversation and gives ammo to PRC shills claiming "Taiwan is a province of China" which deliberately uses the name of a single ROC holding and the ambiguous "China" term.

While you are technically correct, and it's true this is a real issue in PRC/ROC politics it's a strange hill to die on here. I'd note that you linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_Armed_Forces to support your argument. But the very first sentence of that page is "The Republic of China Armed Forces, commonly known as the Taiwanese Armed Forces..."

People commonly refer to the United States of America as "America" which is odd since there's also Central and South America. Being common doesn't equal being correct, and in this case the ambiguity is used by the aggressor state (PRC) to get people to believe a certain narrative. I'll continue to inform folks where I can as most people aren't aware of the situation between the ROC and PRC. I don't care about downvotes on this site _especially_ if it's because I'm stating facts that people do not like.

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Post by est »

ardy42 wrote: post #214
Barrin92 wrote: post #65

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Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s.

> Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s. That's misleading. The US de facto recognizes Taiwan, and the only reason it doesn't recognize it de jure is that the PRC would formally cut off relations if it did. https://en.wikipe…

> the only reason it doesn't recognize it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_the_United_Nations#R...

The only reason it doesn't recognize it is because US kicked RoC out of UN by United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758

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Post by raz32dust »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #571
etangent wrote: post #561

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This comment has so much elitism in it I can smell the grey poupon from across the wire.

You're right. We're so much better off when a significant segment of the population believes that the Secretary of State is pimping out children from a pizza restaurant.

This is a well-known issue, but what is your solution? Ban internet and go back to the 90s? It's pointless to gripe about this without a good alternative.

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Post by ColanR »

knzhou wrote: post #495
freehunter wrote: post #480

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Is it appropriate to flag HN comments that are so blatantly wrong like the one you replied to? If YouTube is taking down misinformation, is HN doing the same?

There's an endless flood of these bad comments. I'm just going through them (a new one posted every 2 minutes) and making the same rebuttal. People are stupid -- especially people who think they're smart contrarians.

> I'm just going through them and making the same rebuttal.

> People are stupid -- especially people who think they're smart contrarians.

Speak for yourself.

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