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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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ardy42 wrote: post #214
Barrin92 wrote: post #65

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Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s.

> Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s. That's misleading. The US de facto recognizes Taiwan, and the only reason it doesn't recognize it de jure is that the PRC would formally cut off relations if it did. https://en.wikipe…

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by guscost »

mmazing wrote: post #301
stcredzero wrote: post #270

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Let the market sort them out then, right?

The market won't sort them out, but the courts will. Wait until they are deemed a publisher, and no longer exempt from liability[0] for all of the content that they publish. Unfortunately they hire a lot of lobbyists so it might be a long wait.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230_of_the_Communicati...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by jdminhbg »

dijit wrote: post #323
jdminhbg wrote: post #224

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He "commented about the abuse" in order to deflect from a question about why the WHO didn't take Taiwan's warnings seriously.

I think you're missing the point. Taiwan does not exist as an entity to the WHO because it is not recognised by the United Nations. As much as Taiwan has valuable lessons it's basically akin to asking why the WHO isn't listening to the municipality of sealand. The journalist asking that question in the first place knew that Taiwan is a political hotbed and was looking for a story, they got one and the WHO is under th…

If you think that's an acceptable answer, then Tedros could have given it as an answer instead of an irrelevant diatribe about mean people online.

Public health is, like aviation for example, one of those things where recognition of "legitimate" governments has to take a back seat to de facto reality. If the WHO is unable to deal with Taiwan, then we need a different organization that can.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by brlewis »

mmazing wrote: post #315
subhobroto wrote: post #21

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. WHO is a political organization with medical leanings just like Fox News is an entertainment channel that covers newslike topics. Yes, there's a lot of information out there about SARS-COV2 and COVID-19 infections out there that are downright misleading at best and life threatening at worst. No, censoring that content including videos is NOT the role of a hosting platfo…

In the age of misinformation, how do we better equip our society to know (or even desire to know) what is accurate information? I think it's easy to think of censorship as the answer, and it's easy to think that in this extreme circumstance that it's the answer. Maybe it is a slippery slope. It is a problem though. People aren't doing a very good job of handling it on their own, either. So what's the answer? Genuinel…

Concise statements, concise pro arguments, concise con arguments, each pro/con having its own pro/con arguments behind it via hypertext. Make it easier to explore the tree of evidence.

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Post by GordonS »

xupybd wrote: post #81
Barrin92 wrote: post #65

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Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s.

It's the awkward way they one representative handled a question on Taiwan. Pretending he didn't hear the question. I think it speaks more to the unwillingness of a world health organisation to even discuss politically dangerous topics.

I saw that video and was shocked that a representative from WHO would behave that way, pretending not to hear the question and hanging up... utterly childish behaviour. I mean, how the hell am I supposed to take an organisation like that seriously?

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Post by fzeroracer »

ken47 wrote: post #351
phs318u wrote: post #292

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Except the point I was making is that your right to act on your belief of egregious nonsense ends when it results in harm to me.

Who gets to decide what is nonsense. What happens when society thinks YOU are the one with nonsensical beliefs? "Galileo agreed not to teach the heresy anymore and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. It took more than 300 years for the Church to admit that Galileo was right and to clear his name of heresy." https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/galileo-is-convi...

When people are directly threatening people because they are even slightly linked to 5G towers, or they're peddling nonsense like 'drinking bleach will cure you of corona', then I think it's fair to draw a line in the sand and say those are dangerous, nonsensical beliefs.

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Post by slavik81 »

zionic wrote: post #335
dpbriggs wrote: post #226

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I don't think it is good form to copy/paste this comment to each reply, even if they're making mostly redundant replies. You may want to link to your original comment instead.

The above comment being [dead] seriously concerns me.

Why? You can turn on showdead in your profile and see for yourself that it's a duplicate post. Here's an index of them: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22961683

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Post by SahAssar »

throwqqq wrote: post #355
robrenaud wrote: post #311

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Germany bans holocaust denial. That seems fine.

Given that they reinvented gunboat diplomacy for Greece, not really.

How is Germany's handling of the Greek debt crisis at all comparable to forcing a nation to the table with the threat of invasion?
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