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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Post by ken47 »

phs318u wrote: post #292
subhobroto wrote: post #210

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> your right to swing your arms ends where my nose begins I live by that philosophy! As I said here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22956768 "... if I see you foisting your opinions on what kind of content I get to see, that's you infringing on my freedom and we have a problem." Your quote is more concise and to the point :D

Except the point I was making is that your right to act on your belief of egregious nonsense ends when it results in harm to me.

Who gets to decide what is nonsense. What happens when society thinks YOU are the one with nonsensical beliefs?

"Galileo agreed not to teach the heresy anymore and spent the rest of his life under house arrest. It took more than 300 years for the Church to admit that Galileo was right and to clear his name of heresy."

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/galileo-is-convi...

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Post by triyambakam »

jimsmart wrote: post #309
triyambakam wrote: post #237

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What is false about this tweet? [1] [1] https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

What's false here — a logical fallacy — is to attribute that claim to the WHO, and not to the 'preliminary reports' from 'Chinese authorities'. If a newspaper quotes/summarises the words of an MP/celeb, are those the newspaper's views? This tweet clearly states it is the view of a third-party, and that it is based upon preliminary reports, and it is the third-party's findings.

I would hope that the WHO only tweets statements that they find credible. Newspapers repeating what a celebrity says feels different

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Post by outside1234 »

ardy42 wrote: post #214
Barrin92 wrote: post #65

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Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s.

> Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s. That's misleading. The US de facto recognizes Taiwan, and the only reason it doesn't recognize it de jure is that the PRC would formally cut off relations if it did. https://en.wikipe…

The WHO de facto recognizes Taiwan as well.

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Post by triyambakam »

knzhou wrote: post #287
triyambakam wrote: post #274

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I'm moreover pointing out that it isn't clear what YouTube would enforce or not - taken simply, there are a lot of YouTube videos that would have been in conflict with this statement on Twitter. Would they have been taken down?

I will repeat: they said in the early stages that it was too soon to be sure. All the other tweets from this period are saying the same thing: something might be coming, so countries should prepare. So a video saying that people should prepare would not at all be in contradiction. The kind of misinformation that this measure is aimed at is stuff like saying that it's spread by 5G, or that vitamin C or some random her…

And I'll repeat too - does YouTube gauge their censors against what the WHO tweets?

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Post by throwqqq »

robrenaud wrote: post #311
stcredzero wrote: post #270

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Germany bans holocaust denial. That seems fine.

Given that they reinvented gunboat diplomacy for Greece, not really.

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

Yeah, I'm not seeing the outrage.

1. Youtube ad providers do not want their ads shown with bogus content.

2. Youtube does not want to be subject to lawsuits from the transmission of dangerous bullshit.

3. Pandemic situations are not the same as being a kook and watching garden variety kook material. Misinformation regarding this has already killed people. It will continue to kill people. Save your frustration for when a content platform censors everyday nonsense, and save me the slippery slope argument.

There are freaking dentists and physicians who, in a panic, tried to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for themselves and their families because they heard about ONE study by a serial nutball out of France, which was then repeated by the freaking President of the United States.

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Post by onion2k »

roenxi wrote: post #336
bosswipe wrote: post #324

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Thanks to Google, Facebook and the others this is the golden era of being able to widely disseminate your alternate theories on everything. If that is your definition of freedom then you are less oppressed then any other humans in history.

Some people would like freedom to discuss the coronavirus without being oppressed. They can't on YouTube if this policy takes hold. The sort of people who contradict the WHO happened to be right on this one; they predicted a problem early and tended to pre-empt the WHO on upcoming problems. This was also expected , because the WHO only advises stuff that is already obvious to everyone. Interested parties can offer be…

The sort of people who contradict the WHO happened to be right on this one; they predicted a problem early...

Suggesting YouTubers were correct a form of survivorship bias. You're only paying attention to the ones that were right. Plenty of other YouTubers said things along the lines of it being a hoax, or it'd die off, or that it'd be thousands of times worse long before, and long after, the WHO reacted.

YouTube is big and covers all opinions, so of course some would be correct.

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