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Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by crazygringo »

tguedes wrote: post #26
crazygringo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if you've noticed but there's a global pandemic going on? Yes a ton of stuff is sold out, and the only listings remaining are weird versions that take a month to ship from China. Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault. Your complaints aren't relevant here.

This has been happening pre-pandemic.....

The sold out part? No it absolutely hasn't. And as long as you stick to "Sold by and shipped from Amazon", "clone crap" is virtually never an issue.

Yes, one person in ten thousand might receive a co-mingled counterfeit item or something, just like you might buy a laptop at Best Buy only discover a brick in the box because somebody scammed a return.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by ProAm »

crazygringo wrote: post #22
WhyKill wrote: post #13

Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

I don't know if you've noticed but there's a global pandemic going on? Yes a ton of stuff is sold out, and the only listings remaining are weird versions that take a month to ship from China. Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault. Your complaints aren't relevant here.

> Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault.

This is 100% Amazon's fault. If you are going to be a seller, a platform and a supplier you need to verify the authenticity of the goods provided. Especially if you set prices, shipping options and take a cut of sales. This has been going on for years, its just be exacerbated now. I placed an order and was given a estimated delivery 5 weeks out.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by bratsche »

amluto wrote: post #23
agundy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Books aren’t even reliably great with certain knock offs and or different version/condition substitutions. No Starch Press has had issues With counterfeit printed books. https://www.inc.com/sonya-mann/amazon-counterfeits-no-starch...

Books also often arrive damaged due to the bizarre way they get packed.

I agree. I stupidly ordered a copy of Bach's Well-Tempered Klavier from Amazon and it just arrived yesterday, and the back cover was all bent along the edge because they did a terrible job of packing it.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by bedhead »

WhyKill wrote: post #13

Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

Literally any article about Amazon on HN inevitably devolves into a bunch of useless anecdotes about how much Amazon supposedly sucks. You could set a watch to it. It's beyond tiresome. If you did nothing but read HN you'd think Amazon was filing for bankruptcy imminently.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by crazygringo »

ProAm wrote: post #32
crazygringo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if you've noticed but there's a global pandemic going on? Yes a ton of stuff is sold out, and the only listings remaining are weird versions that take a month to ship from China. Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault. Your complaints aren't relevant here.

> Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault. This is 100% Amazon's fault. If you are going to be a seller, a platform and a supplier you need to verify the authenticity of the goods provided. Especially if you set prices, shipping options and take a cut of sales. This has been going on for years, its just be exacerbated now. I placed an order and was given a estimated delivery 5 weeks out.

Does eBay verify authenticity? No. No reasonable 3rd party marketplace dealing with millions of products can.

And again... estimated delivery 5 weeks out is because of a pandemic. Or because you ordered something from a third party that shipped from China. Or it was out of stock, which is a normal thing to happen sometimes in any business.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by unethical_ban »

bedhead wrote: post #34
WhyKill wrote: post #13

Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

Literally any article about Amazon on HN inevitably devolves into a bunch of useless anecdotes about how much Amazon supposedly sucks. You could set a watch to it. It's beyond tiresome. If you did nothing but read HN you'd think Amazon was filing for bankruptcy imminently.

The fact that amazon sucks as a place to get reputable items or find brand-specific stuff, and that they are rolling in money, should show several things:

* They still satisfy consumer demand "enough"

* They don't have enough competition in enough spaces

* They can suck at some things, be good at others, and make money

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by ta1771 »

jdm2212 wrote: post #6
sytelus wrote: post #4

This is quite significant given market is very bullish on Amazon (Goldman is just all over it). The expectations are set sky high to do well during these times. But if you look at things as consumer, it doesn't look so good. Personally, I've significantly less orders on Amazon these days because of huge delivery times. Sure, orders for "essentials" might have gone up but can that offset the gap? Also, sellers are ver…

This is sort of a "no one goes there anymore, it's too crowded" criticism. Huge delivery times are because they're getting so many orders (which means so much revenue, which means so much profit).

Short term.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by ilamont »

The other issue which Bezos has less control over is delivery, especially in areas where its own logistics service is limited.

A friend living in rural New Hampshire says Amazon will no longer deliver goods to people in his town, which indicates a last-mile delivery problem.

Another friend in North Carolina said the U.S. Post Office stopped delivery to all of the buildings in his apartment complex because the leasing office was now closed.

There are other situations in which delivery companies understandably don't want to follow pre-COVID procedures because it's no longer safe to do so.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by scoopdewoop »

crazygringo wrote: post #35
ProAm wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Absolutely none of that is Amazon's fault. This is 100% Amazon's fault. If you are going to be a seller, a platform and a supplier you need to verify the authenticity of the goods provided. Especially if you set prices, shipping options and take a cut of sales. This has been going on for years, its just be exacerbated now. I placed an order and was given a estimated delivery 5 weeks out.

Does eBay verify authenticity? No. No reasonable 3rd party marketplace dealing with millions of products can. And again... estimated delivery 5 weeks out is because of a pandemic . Or because you ordered something from a third party that shipped from China. Or it was out of stock, which is a normal thing to happen sometimes in any business.

Ebay has seller reviews, and I know who the seller actually is. More importantly, ebay doesn't mix the inventory of every seller.

I buy everything I can on AliExpress now, because if I'm gonna get chinese knock-offs, they should at least be cheap.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Post by bedhead »

bedhead wrote: post #34
WhyKill wrote: post #13

Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

Literally any article about Amazon on HN inevitably devolves into a bunch of useless anecdotes about how much Amazon supposedly sucks. You could set a watch to it. It's beyond tiresome. If you did nothing but read HN you'd think Amazon was filing for bankruptcy imminently.

Is there a more efficient way to get downvotes on HN than saying something positive about Amazon, or simply say that Amazon doesn't suck? Probably not.
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