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Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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I guess now we'll see how much of the perceived shit show was actually his making, and how much was his leadership group. This should be interesting.

> perceived shit show Honest question: what are you talking about?

Probably referring to the media reports about either the warehouse worker complaints or internal corporate politics.

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

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This is quite significant given market is very bullish on Amazon (Goldman is just all over it). The expectations are set sky high to do well during these times. But if you look at things as consumer, it doesn't look so good. Personally, I've significantly less orders on Amazon these days because of huge delivery times. Sure, orders for "essentials" might have gone up but can that offset the gap? Also, sellers are ver…

Unfortunately, Amazon isn't measured against some platonic ideal of what an online retailer could be. They are measured against their competition. And, as far as I can tell, there is no credible competition.

I've been using Whole Foods app for grocery delivery for a little while, and I tried using the QFC one the other day, figuring Amazon needed some competition. It was a complete joke. Half the items in the store said they were only available for pickup, not delivery (why?), and there was no way to filter for delivery items only. And then even when I filled my cart, when I went to check out it removed half the items in there because they were out of stock or because they weren't actually available for delivery after all. Why did you show them in the first place? This app was worse than having nothing, in that it wasted so much of my time.

It's hard to see how Amazon will ever be challenged when the competition is so bad.

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This is quite significant given market is very bullish on Amazon (Goldman is just all over it). The expectations are set sky high to do well during these times. But if you look at things as consumer, it doesn't look so good. Personally, I've significantly less orders on Amazon these days because of huge delivery times. Sure, orders for "essentials" might have gone up but can that offset the gap? Also, sellers are ver…

I'm the opposite. I use them for 99% of my shopping. Almost everything I buy can wait a few days. I hate finding parking, waiting in line at registers, and driving to the store. It's a whole morning of my weekend off to go shopping. The amount of time saved from using Amazon in my day to day life is staggering.

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I guess now we'll see how much of the perceived shit show was actually his making, and how much was his leadership group. This should be interesting.

I don't think there's any "perceived shit show" from the perspective of investors or management.

If you're referring to the treatment of warehouse workers over the past decade, Amazon pays them market rates, like pretty much every other business pays market rates. So Amazon can sell goods at the lowest price possible. It's not a "shit show", it's a business strategy that has paid off.

If you're upset about how workers are treated, bring it up with Congress to set minimum wage and employee treatment laws that will apply to all businesses and warehouse fulfillment centers, not just Amazon.

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I have no idea what this means, can you get me up to speed on what this show was?

To get up to speed on Amazon's sub-par attitude to warehouse workers' welfare, prior to Bezos re-assuming day-to-day leadership, start here: 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22759575 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22770092

Did Bezos care about warehouse worker safety when he ran things day to day? I thought there have been sporadic reports of warehouse worker mistreatment going back years, like that story about the one warehouse that had to have an ambulance parked outside to pick up workers who got heat stroke because it was cheaper than installing A/C. (No idea if that story's true. Just, this stuff has been circulating for a while. The new stories are no more or less credible, so I'm not changing my opinion of what's happening on the ground.)

Re: Jeff Bezos has returned to day-to-day management of Amazon

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Amazon sucks now. I can't buy most of the specific items I use in my work, and when I do find something it's swimming in a sea of clone crap. The best thing it does still is books. Anything else is a mizxed bag. AMZ is just Ali Baba for people who can't wait for the ship.

Not to mention their treatment of workers, whether it's in the warehouse or the ip restrictions on white collar employees.

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> perceived shit show Honest question: what are you talking about?

Probably referring to the media reports about either the warehouse worker complaints or internal corporate politics.

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

Those reports struck me more as "normal big company issues" than "shit show" but maybe I'm a bit jaded.

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