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Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by JonathonW »

aequitas wrote: post #169
JonathonW wrote: post #36

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I don’t find getting into the multitasking switcher meaningfully harder on the newer devices— it’s just a swipe-up-and-hold gesture, which I’ll occasionally time wrong and end up at the home screen, but not often enough to be “painful” (and it’s just another swipe away if I do mess up). What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps. Just swipe left and…

> Just swipe left and right at the bottom of the screen (on the bar)— this lets you flip between apps in the order that they’re in the switcher. This means I very rarely actually enter the full multitasking switcher in normal use. Did Apple make this a all or nothing thing or do some of these gestures also work on home button devices?

All or nothing, IIRC. Home button devices do have a gesture to switch directly between apps (3D touch on the left edge of the screen), but I always found it difficult to activate reliably, especially with a case on my phone.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by vbezhenar »

swiley wrote: post #195
shrew wrote: post #143

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I'm with you here, I went through a period of moving to feature phones and ditching the smart watch to reduce the phone back to utility rather than a distraction. But feature phones, even those running kaiOS, just don't have the support for communication tools and things like 2fa authenticator apps. I eventually went for an iPhone SE (2016) in the last year, after it was discontinued and managed to get a boxed, new u…

My iPhone SE got destroyed and I got a 7 to replace it since they wouldn’t give me another SE. The larger screen isn’t nicer and just makes the phone harder to hold. I actually feel like I have a harder time touching things accurately as well, I think the 7 detects touches at a different place on your finger. And of course I can’t use headphones, I ordered a dongle from newegg and waited weeks and now it hasn’t come.…

Try different phone, may be your touch screen is not calibrated properly.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by fragmede »

coldpie wrote: post #188
captaincrowbar wrote: post #177

There's a good reason why Apple aren't making the small form factor phone lots of you are asking for: logistics. The new SE requires very little new manufacturing capacity. The case and probably battery are from the iPhone 8; the CPU/GPU/SOC and most of the rest of the electronics are from the iPhone 11; the camera still seems to be a slightly unknown quantity but the specs suggest it has a lot in common with the iPh…

All that makes sense, but forget Apple, one of the Android manufacturers should serve this market. I feel like there's a sizeable niche that could fund one small, high quality Android phone. It's really never been done; all the small phones that have come out have been compromised in some way. Sony's Xperia Compact line came the closest, but it doesn't use stock Android, which is a huge point against it. I feel like…

Since most phones are glass bricks these days, the assembly cost is approximately the same. Thus the profit margin on a larger phone is larger, and the incentive to build a smaller phone isn't there.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by pastastickers »

pzmarzly wrote: post #168
JonathonW wrote: post #36

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I don’t find getting into the multitasking switcher meaningfully harder on the newer devices— it’s just a swipe-up-and-hold gesture, which I’ll occasionally time wrong and end up at the home screen, but not often enough to be “painful” (and it’s just another swipe away if I do mess up). What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps. Just swipe left and…

> What is vastly better on the X-series devices, though, is switching between your two or three most recent apps. On devices with 3D Touch switching between 2 recent apps became easier once you learned this shortcut: just hard press the left edge of the screen, and depending on how far you drag it to the right, you can either go to the previous app or open the switcher (faster than double tapping the home button).

Just wanted to chime in on this: it doesn’t matter how far you drag it to the right, but how “deep” you press: after pressing once, give it another, deeper press and the app switcher will appear.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by vbezhenar »

ubercow13 wrote: post #204
m12k wrote: post #126

Compared to my first gen SE, I'd like the faster processor, better camera and better battery life. But I'm not sure I'm willing to go up in size and weight, and get the rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed. For me, a bigger screen isn't a plus - after years of following the trend and being on my phone more and more, I managed to kick the habit and I'm very happy that my phone has now found its ri…

>rounded edges that make it even harder to grip one-handed I don't get this criticism - I owned a 5 series iPhone and the anodized finish was anything but easy to grip. It looked nice but massively reduced the friction between your hand and the surface, making it the easiest phone to drop that I have ever held. Their lightness didn't help either. Conversely the newer iPhones with glass backs stick to your skin almost…

I used iPhone 4S for 4 years and did not drop it once. I dropped iPhone 8 first day, I have no idea how to hold it, so I bought case immediately. Now it's bearable. Another reason for using a case is a terrible camera protruding from the phone.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by vbezhenar »

iso1631 wrote: post #210
atomi wrote: post #200

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Most of us here work with workstations or laptops, daily. But generally speaking not as many people are using them in their home. A lot of folks do use their phones primarily for media watching and browsing. And that's a big chunk of Apple's market.

It makes perfect sense to have Cheap phone with big screen and not much else - the "lowest common denominator" Expensive phone with big screen - the "power user" Expensive phone with small screen - the mobile user Laptops tend to come in such groupings, why is the last group ignored when it comes to phones?

My theory is they want us to forget about small phones and then reintroduce them as a shiny new feature. History goes in spiral.

Re: The 2020 iPhone SE

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Post by jdsully »

skavi wrote: post #92
ip26 wrote: post #31

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Something has got to be screwy. The iPhone has a TDP of 6W and a clock speed of 2.5GHz. The MBP has boost clocks of 5GHz and a 45W TDP.

Each A13 Lightning core has around 2.5x the transistors of a Skylake core. The Skylake design is also 5 years old and on a node at least a generation out of date. Geekbench is also a short enough test that thermals aren’t a huge concern.

Yes but AMD is on a much newer node and still only achieves a very slight improvement in IPC nowhere near >2x these benchmarks imply.
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