51 hours left to live
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Re: 51 hours left to live
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, and I would have never posted my comment over on the reddit thread. It was displeasurable enough to post it here. I have thought that when faced with my last days, I would like to write a blog article (or, knowing me, a freaking series) kind of wrapping things up. I consider HN sort of my home audience, so I would post these articles over here. But this has got me rethinking that idea. The problem is that th…
Not to argue with you or anything, but the guy is really not going to see if other people get upvoted more or something. And he recently got an ipad. He was not lucid enough to do stuff on the internet for a long time. He lost his house to his medical bills. The ipad he was probably given as a last wish is probably the coolest, most alive thing he has gotten to do in a long, long time. Talking to a jillion people at…
It's not whether the person in question experiences one thing or another from their posting. The question is whether or not the tools that the community uses to rank tech gossip should be the same tools as it uses to process final words.
I find that a form of monetization of human life, and I'm not in favor of heading down that road. It leads to bad places. Not for the posters, but for the rest of the community.
I think your mistake, if you made one, was assuming that my concern was for the feelings of those posting. It is not. It is for the continuing devaluing of human life by technology. The commnenter said that this article reached out and touched him, and I think that's great. If we had 50 on here a week, it would not. And I think that is unacceptable.
Re: 51 hours left to live
#83His best quotes: On life: Nothing we have is worth hurting anyone else for. It's all fleeting, people. Stop seeing race, color, sex, religion, etc... They're all just people, and if you try to love them you won't lose anything. On suicide (of an otherwise healthy person): It's not living that's failed him, it's life. We can always change our life as long as were living. On regret: Yes, one. I bought my high school sw…
Re: 51 hours left to live
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to argue with you or anything, but the guy is really not going to see if other people get upvoted more or something. And he recently got an ipad. He was not lucid enough to do stuff on the internet for a long time. He lost his house to his medical bills. The ipad he was probably given as a last wish is probably the coolest, most alive thing he has gotten to do in a long, long time. Talking to a jillion people at…
I think you're arguing with me, but that's fine. I'm still trying to figure out how I feel :) It's not whether the person in question experiences one thing or another from their posting. The question is whether or not the tools that the community uses to rank tech gossip should be the same tools as it uses to process final words. I find that a form of monetization of human life, and I'm not in favor of heading down t…
I am sure you are right about that. But what I have found personally is that a) I didn't learn how to live until I spent a lot of time at death's door and b) most people who speak with me are invigorated by exposure to ..whatever I got out of that experience. They get to get some perspective on their own lives and problems and sometimes decided that the concerns they are obsessing over are just stupid and not that important. I have terrible financial problems, which are a real issue. I would likely have them had I pursued conventional treatments as well only I wouldn't be getting well. But my creditors aren't going to come cut out my lungs or the lungs of my 23 year old son (who has the same diagnosis I have), which is basically what I would be facing otherwise (lung transplants are really common with my condition). So I just can't find it in me to be as upset about my financial situation as other people sometimes seem to think I should be.
Technology went a long way towards saving my life, both literally and figuratively. It gave me a social life when I as unable to leave my house. It gave me access to research when I was too sick to go to a library. It gave me a means to occupy my time when having nothing to do but go crazy from constant unrelieved pain was a fate worse than death.
I don't really see the issue with the post on Reddit. I would agree with you if someone posted here that they have a new startup idea and plan to make a site specifically to have exactly this kind of post as its sole purpose. I thought the community was very supportive and kind and humane in its treatment of the situation, suprisingly so given how much trash gets talked about Reddit on HN.
But then I am some feverish twit just hanging out here tonight because I can't sleep and can't focus to do anything more than shoot the breeze with strangers...etc...what the hell do I know?
Edit: And it's really not intended as argument. It's intended as conversation. Since I spent some time at death's door and spent a lot of time online during that time, I have this silly idea that my thoughts on this topic might be of interest to your soul-searching...or whatever.
Re: 51 hours left to live
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's heartbreaking. I think there's an uncomfortable novelty in having access to such personal period in this person's life. Sometimes, technology can create distance and remove immediacy and impact - but I don't think that's true in this case. There's an obvious undeniable gravity at work - it's important. This kind of story usually only touches us if we're unlucky enough to have friends or family who are experienci…
I agree, and I would have never posted my comment over on the reddit thread. It was displeasurable enough to post it here. I have thought that when faced with my last days, I would like to write a blog article (or, knowing me, a freaking series) kind of wrapping things up. I consider HN sort of my home audience, so I would post these articles over here. But this has got me rethinking that idea. The problem is that th…
This is still relatively new to human society. Twitter provides a way to shout out sentences to the world in general - and to listen out for voices that we care about. Forums allow us to converse with multiple people and actually form relationships - relationships which might eventually cross over into meatspace.
The ability to converse in this way - in a 'third space', provides a lot of opportunities to encounter things that we're not used to encountering. This is an example of that.
What will happen in the future? Well - if there's a sharp increase in communication with people who are choosing to end their lives due to suffering, my guess is we'll all learn more about what those people are feeling and thinking. We'll all be a lot more educated and a lot more understanding as a result. It will be a positive thing.
I suppose that there's a chance that we'll become desensitized - but I think, when the stakes are this high and the subject is so earth-shatteringly significant to every one of us, it probably won't ever become so.
I really think that our society is worse off by treating death as a taboo. I don't particularly enjoy thinking about it, or talking about it - but I think it's worthwhile.
Re: 51 hours left to live
#87Really sad, it made me think that I'm going to die in some unknown day and circumstances...
Men have a 1 in 2 chance of getting cancer and then 1 in 4 of dying from it. Women 1 in 3 getting, 1 in 5 dying. http://www.cancer.org/Cancer/CancerBasics/lifetime-probabili... Make every day count!
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#88That thread provoked two distinct reactions in me. One was I shouldn't spend more the necessary at my desk working, when there's is an entire world out there to live and experience because you never know when the day will come. The other is I want to really accomplish what I'm working hard for, so that I could feel like I succeed in my goals.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are many bots that downvote in order to promote other submissions. I'm glad they have that choice, and the ability to share their story. In perspective there are many people in this world who die "unknown" - PBS airs the pictures weekly of teenage American soldiers who died in Iraq or Afghanistan - then there are those who were killed while trying to non-violently protest their unjust government (China, Iran, e…
This isn't true. What evidence do you have that bots downvote on reddit? The reddit guys came by our Cloudkick office late last year and flat denied there are any bots they know of that downvote when I asked them. If you don't have any real reason to know about bots on Reddit you should probably not persist in continuing to pass on this fantasy.
For example, years ago when reddit was new I used to post actual articles and consistently make the front page with them. But one day all my submissions suddenly started getting downvoted, many almost immediately after posting as if someone or something was constantly monitoring the new submissions page, killing any chances of developing the critical mass they used to get or of making it to the front page.
The nature of my postings hadn't changed at all, but the nature of reddit's voting behavior had, and not gradually but unnaturally abruptly, hence the suspicion. Whether it was a human voting ring like was exposed at Digg a while back, or actual bots, or just some no-life basement dwellers with nothing better to do than game reddit all day, I have no idea. I eventually abandoned that account, and now only post comments and the occasional question thread to smaller subreddits.
Of course one person's anecdotal experience is hardly evidence, much less proof, but suspicious nonetheless. When the reddit guys visited you and denied there were any bots, did they explain how they knew this? User agent info, statistical behavioral analysis, etc? I'd be really curious how they go about testing that hypothesis against their massive amount of data.