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Re: 51 hours left to live

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Mz wrote: post #20
reason wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is sad about what conventional medicine has to offer?

If you read his comments, he has been battling cancer for 6 years. He has apparently had multiple surgeries. He is stopping the medication so he can have a "lucid ending" and spend some quality time with family and friends. He has been tortured by chemo. He plans on having jello as his last meal so he doesn't "mess" himself again. I have cystic fibrosis. I've gotten off of 8 or so prescription drugs. The drug side ef…

"What conventional medicine does is pretty gruesome."

What are you talking about? Chances are you would've died a century ago because of the lack of effective treatments for CF. There are people who have dedicated their entire lives to researching the genetic mechanisms that lead to CF, not to mention the efforts being led to better understand those behind cancer.

I think you need to give conventional medicine some credit.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by davidedicillo »

That thread provoked two distinct reactions in me. One was I shouldn't spend more the necessary at my desk working, when there's is an entire world out there to live and experience because you never know when the day will come. The other is I want to really accomplish what I'm working hard for, so that I could feel like I succeed in my goals.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by Swannie »

reason wrote: post #18
Mz wrote: post #17

Someone on HN once suggested I do an AMAA on Reddit. I didn't get it. This post makes me want to do one. I wish Lucidending well. My impetus has nothing to do with "rebutting" the idea of right to die. I got well in part because I stopped trying to live. At one time, my whole goal was to just hurt less. Suicide would have been gladly welcomed, so I understand why one would do that. I just think it's sad that this is…

What is sad about what conventional medicine has to offer?

I think Mz is trying to make the point that conventional /wisdom/ in modern medicine, is primarily to prolong life, and does so in preference to giving quality of life.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by Mz »

reason wrote: post #21
Mz wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read his comments, he has been battling cancer for 6 years. He has apparently had multiple surgeries. He is stopping the medication so he can have a "lucid ending" and spend some quality time with family and friends. He has been tortured by chemo. He plans on having jello as his last meal so he doesn't "mess" himself again. I have cystic fibrosis. I've gotten off of 8 or so prescription drugs. The drug side ef…

"What conventional medicine does is pretty gruesome." What are you talking about? Chances are you would've died a century ago because of the lack of effective treatments for CF. There are people who have dedicated their entire lives to researching the genetic mechanisms that lead to CF, not to mention the efforts being led to better understand those behind cancer. I think you need to give conventional medicine some c…

I do give conventional medicine some credit for keeping me alive. But if I continued pursuing conventional treatments, I would be a life-long legal drug addict and too ill to work. My life would suck in quite a lot of ways. Conventional medicine keeps people alive. But at quite a high cost, a cost that makes many people -- like Lucidending and, at one time, me -- feel that death would be preferable.

Anyway, probably not a good idea to do an AMAA if this is the reception my comments get here, where I am already a member and speak pretty openly about having gotten myself well.

Peace.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by reason »

Swannie wrote: post #25
reason wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is sad about what conventional medicine has to offer?

I think Mz is trying to make the point that conventional /wisdom/ in modern medicine, is primarily to prolong life, and does so in preference to giving quality of life.

Clearly not as her response complains about the side effects taking cystic fibrosis treatment, and nowhere did she mention how she would've rather died than had the disease treated.

Edit: Yep, missed that part. I was wrong there.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by Swannie »

reason wrote: post #27
Swannie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Mz is trying to make the point that conventional /wisdom/ in modern medicine, is primarily to prolong life, and does so in preference to giving quality of life.

Clearly not as her response complains about the side effects taking cystic fibrosis treatment, and nowhere did she mention how she would've rather died than had the disease treated. Edit: Yep, missed that part. I was wrong there.

"my whole goal was to just hurt less. Suicide would have been gladly welcomed"

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by Mz »

reason wrote: post #27
Swannie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Mz is trying to make the point that conventional /wisdom/ in modern medicine, is primarily to prolong life, and does so in preference to giving quality of life.

Clearly not as her response complains about the side effects taking cystic fibrosis treatment, and nowhere did she mention how she would've rather died than had the disease treated. Edit: Yep, missed that part. I was wrong there.

and nowhere did she mention how she would've rather died than had the disease treated.

Maybe you missed this part of my post:

...I got well in part because I stopped trying to live. At one time, my whole goal was to just hurt less. Suicide would have been gladly welcomed, so I understand why one would do that.

Re: 51 hours left to live

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Post by throwaway_2011 »

csomar wrote: post #4

Really sad, it made me think that I'm going to die in some unknown day and circumstances...

My worst fear is actually not to die. I don't believe in hell and the worst that can happen is that I stop to exist.

My worst fear is the process of dying itself. After watching a close family member die of cancer, that process frightens me. If I end up in a similar situation, I'll move to Oregon as well.

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