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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by sojournerc »

peq wrote: post #234
thdrdt wrote: post #2

Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…

Some problems I had with Snaps: * Installed VScode. The terminal in VScode was in a different environment from the system terminal, so used different Python environments. Took me a while to figure out why installing a package was not working. * Installed Slack. When I click a link in Slack it opens a new Firefox process that does not have access to my normal profile, saved logins, etc. and is not shown as a Firefox w…

The new firefox on link click in slack can be guided by going to `about::profiles` or something like that, and making sure there's only one profile, and that it's default.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by mciancia »

globular-toast wrote: post #27
LeonM wrote: post #22

Looking through the features Gnome 3.36 - X11 fractional scaling. I got all excited, because this means that now finally Ubuntu will be usable on my Lenovo X1E with High-DPI display. But then further down below: Fractional scaling does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver (bug 1870736, bug 1873403). OK, nevermind, back to Windows with WSL...

Throw your nVidia card in the bin and be free. After many years with nVidia I removed the card and I've been happily using Intel hardware for a year now.

Throw your Linux OS in the bin and be free. After many years with Linux I removed it and I've been happily using Apple/Windows hardware for a year now. /s

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind »

non-entity wrote: post #250
readwind wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll enlighten you. About twenty years ago people used IIS for web-servers, encumbered in costly licenses, for everything, and progress goes on. That's the point man. Time goes on, and things gets better. Hope you see now. That was the point, anyways. I really hope it helps. Progress goes on is just the general point. Nothing else intended. Should be clear enough.

Lots of people still use IIS for web servers

Yeah I was just being an asshole. Didn't really mean to thrash on ISS or anything. Just being dumb.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by e12e »

bluegreyred wrote: post #134
renewiltord wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canonical wisdom is to have separate / and /home so you can wipe system easily. I upgraded by grepping for the packages that were breaking resolution and removing them. But I already know the failure mode so that whole thing took a few minutes. I do have separate mounts for that reason though.

Interesting, is this feasible in everyday life? I do not use Linux on my desktop or notebook but I would like to do so in the near future. This means I should strive to keep all my user created data within the home directory at all times? How about program preferences and configs that get saved elsewhere by default? I imagine having ZFS snapshots of / would be useful for updates going forward.

> How about program preferences and configs that get saved elsewhere by default?

Nothing goes (should go) elsewhere by default.

If you're wiping the distro and re-installing - you probably don't want to keep /etc anyway.

Fwiw Ubuntu in place lts to lts release upgrade should be solid. But sometimes you want start with new, contemporary defaults, or a different disk layout.

BTW with zfs, you can have a separate home (or home/your_user) filesystem, and not worry about allocating fixed space (thus running out of free space on /, but with more available in /home and vice-versa).

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by e12e »

someperson wrote: post #103

This is the first Ubuntu LTS release without a 32 bit version

Oh? I'll have to see if I can boot 18.04 on an old laptop I found. I think it was one of those mismatched efi vs arch things (32bit boot, 64bit cpu ?) - and last time I couldn't get it to boot... Maybe I can just run it as 32bit...

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by steerablesafe »

kortex wrote: post #217
jakear wrote: post #59

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This almost never actually worked in my experience. It was more of an annoyance than not even pretending to work, because I'd take time trying to get things to install in the UI and they wouldn't work before I eventually needed to revert to CLI.

My experience mirrors yours. Could never get double-click on .deb to work, same symptoms, and Software Center was always buggy/frustrating. dpkg -i all the way, but that's definitely a ux hit for broader adoption of Ubuntu.

apt install ./package.deb installs the package and dependencies in one go.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Anthony-G »

doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

I use a 12-year old Dell laptop (upgraded to 4GB RAM) as my main computer and I’ve been using Lubuntu for the past 6 years for the same reasons you describe. I was also a little disappointed that the focus of the project is no longer to produce a light-weight and efficient desktop – though I don’t object to their new goal.

I’ve been running Lubuntu 16.04 for the past three years but I recently thought I’d update my system. The options I boiled down to were either Debian (the parent and grandparent of so many distributions) or one of the successors to CrunchBang Linux (a light-weight distribution based around the Openbox window manager), BunsenLabs [1] or CrunchBang++ [2].

In the end, I decided that since it was only a few days to wait, I’d try the new LTS version of Lubuntu †. Apparently, its LXQt desktop is just as light as LXDE so I figured it’s worth trying out.

[1] https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

[2] https://crunchbangplusplus.org/

† Not available just yet according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Official_fla...

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

gspr wrote: post #223
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #164

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I understand the hate for snap (and flatpak) and I personally use deb as much as I can, but they are the right move. Yes, right now it's a subpar experience. But you need to deploy it now to be able to improve on it and have it as the default in the future. And I believe it's a better future, because: - packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every rel…

> packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every release for anything that is not a simple program Right, but the point of a high-quality distribution is that this complicated hard work only needs to be done once (per package, updated for upstream changes obviously) by your distribution's package maintainer. Then it scales for free. That's the beauty.

> Right, but the point of a high-quality distribution is that this complicated hard work only needs to be done once (per package, updated for upstream changes obviously) by your distribution's package maintainer.

Sure it works for a sysadmin, but it's not matching at all how regular people are using their computer.

It means you can only use packages that are part of the official repo and:

- it's hard to get in those official repo

- it takes a lot of time

- it assumes free software

- if your app embeds its own dependancies, it's usually rejected by default

- it's a bottleneck for publication (the repo team is limited in resources)

- you have no control over updates

- you can't make people pay for software that are in those repos

- you may want/need to package the software yourself or for yourself

On my computer I have a huge number of softwares that I have not installed from the repos:

puslsms, vscode, telegram, dynalist, veracrypt, signal, discord, antidote, bitwarden firefox developper, guitar, stremio, pop corn time, dukto, photoflare, sublime text, table plus and sublime merge

I think using the simple act of spreading this argument is a demonstration of how remote one can get from the vast diversity of the user base.

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