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Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by iforgotpassword »

RMPR wrote: post #61
nsomaru wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.

I've faced many issues with Debian a few years ago regarding the old packages, one of them was building stubby from source which required getdns 1.1.2 at least, no luck the one in the repository didn't satisfy the version requirement, I tried to build getdns from source but faced an issue with the too old GCC version, I had to "frankeindebian" with gcc and g++ from debian unstable repository. I then decided to switch…

I've felt like the gap became smaller, either stuff isn't changing so fast anymore, or I just got lucky and only dealt with things that had good backwards compatibility.

Either way I'm usually always switching to testing about half a year before it becomes stable. It usually already is pretty stable at that point, and if I do encounter an issue I like to report it to give a little bit back, to help make the next stable release a little more stable from the start. :-)

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by [deleted] »

_23sd wrote: post #8
solarengineer wrote: post #3

I do wonder if it’s legally acceptable to use the name “Ubuntu” as part of a different commercial product’s name - especially after acknowledging on the front page that the name “Ubuntu” has been trademarked by Canonical. Certainly, section 4 of Canonical’s Intellectual Property Rights Policy [0] permits such use only if Canonical were to provide written permission to do so. I presume they want to use the name until…

Ubuntu Deepin seems to be by an independent developer[1], not the company that created Deepin. [1] https://github.com/arunpyasi , https://ubuntudde.com/ubuntudde-beta-200410-release-note/

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Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by renewiltord »

apexalpha wrote: post #67
vijucat wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 2020. Does the Mac OS allow the user to change the menu bar's color? I was forced to use a MacBook Air for work a couple of years ago and was shocked to find that I was forced to use the drab, grey color that was obviously borrowed from the 1970s Unixes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX , for example) via NeXTSTEP. I cannot imagine why you would find the joy of configurability an "asinine dick swinging contes…

It could be described as a "asinine dick swinging contest" because in their battle for DE domination they are all hurting the overarching "linux desktop" community by making sure that every developer would have to support many DE, window managers, distro's and what not to get a reliable app. Having one DE emerge as victorious would greatly benefit linux desktops as a whole, even if it would kill customizability.

Looking over that subreddit, it doesn't look like a battle for DE domination. It looks like people showing off their creativity.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by renewiltord »

arpa wrote: post #13

For the most beautiful DE, it's so... meh. It's a shame. Does anyone here remember Beryl? Now that was mindblowing stuff, still can't wrap my head around the fact it's dead...

Oh right, I forgot all the cool things I had enabled on Compiz: live zoom, wobbly windows, the burn effect. Transparent windows! Those were great. The cube, of course. The shift switcher. Expose.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by brabel »

RMPR wrote: post #56
brabel wrote: post #43

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Indeed.. I have been a Ubuntu user for some time, but have recently switched to KDE due to the latest Ubuntu desktop experiments which really put me off. After installing KDE Plasma, which I thought was a single DE, I was surprised to learn that, on the login page, I can actually select different DEs, like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland... that's really amazing! I have played around with Plasma and Cinnamon…

> like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland... Wayland is not a DE though.

I don't know what Wayland is, but it is in the drop-down list.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by apexalpha »

renewiltord wrote: post #73
apexalpha wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It could be described as a "asinine dick swinging contest" because in their battle for DE domination they are all hurting the overarching "linux desktop" community by making sure that every developer would have to support many DE, window managers, distro's and what not to get a reliable app. Having one DE emerge as victorious would greatly benefit linux desktops as a whole, even if it would kill customizability.

Looking over that subreddit, it doesn't look like a battle for DE domination. It looks like people showing off their creativity.

The original I was responding to:

"Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life."

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by RMPR »

hiq wrote: post #57
nsomaru wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.

I guess front-end development is the obvious one. The Node.js version on Debian Buster is 10.15.2~dfsg-2, while you have 12.16.2 on the official NodeJS website. To be fair, OP mentioned that the official packages were often useless, not the distribution as a whole (you can often install custom packages / binaries, although it's not nice).

Back in time, it was node 5 while the stable version was 8.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by vijucat »

apexalpha wrote: post #67
vijucat wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 2020. Does the Mac OS allow the user to change the menu bar's color? I was forced to use a MacBook Air for work a couple of years ago and was shocked to find that I was forced to use the drab, grey color that was obviously borrowed from the 1970s Unixes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX , for example) via NeXTSTEP. I cannot imagine why you would find the joy of configurability an "asinine dick swinging contes…

It could be described as a "asinine dick swinging contest" because in their battle for DE domination they are all hurting the overarching "linux desktop" community by making sure that every developer would have to support many DE, window managers, distro's and what not to get a reliable app. Having one DE emerge as victorious would greatly benefit linux desktops as a whole, even if it would kill customizability.

> Having one DE emerge as victorious would greatly benefit linux desktops as a whole, even if it would kill customizability.

Good point.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by oliwarner »

Can't see any suggestion that this is officially sanctioned or supported by either trademark holder. Canonical defend the use of "Ubuntu". I would expect a name change fairly soon.

And using SourceForge in 2020 doesn't fill me with confidence.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by GGfpc »

kitotik wrote: post #38
arpa wrote: post #13

For the most beautiful DE, it's so... meh. It's a shame. Does anyone here remember Beryl? Now that was mindblowing stuff, still can't wrap my head around the fact it's dead...

Perhaps wayfire[0] can fill the compiz shaped hole. [0] https://wayfire.org/

Wow this is ugly
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