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Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by nsomaru »

kstenerud wrote: post #20

My magicbook came with deepin linux installed, but unfortunately they're based off debian stable, which meant that most of the packages were severely outdated and unusable for me as a dev environment. The deepin desktop environment itself was pretty, but janky. The settings thing (on the right side of the screen) is difficult and unintuitive to navigate, and scrolling was still buggy when I used it in December (it wi…

Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work.

I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by Klonoar »

Linux GUIs have a problem understanding the difference between beauty as a visual attribute and beauty as a functional product. They never have one without the other.

No, Elementary and Poppin don't count. I wish they did.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by londons_explore »

smabie wrote: post #49

What's the point of creating a new "distro" that just has a different window manager/desktop environment? Like, what kind of person would spend time doing that? Maybe that's a little harsh, but these kinds of projects seem completely pointless. Changing your wm/de doesn't take more than a couple minutes (including the download time). It might actually be harmful, the world doesn't need more distros, derivative or oth…

Ubuntu sort of encouraged distributions which were identical in all ways except the default set of installed packages. Think kububtu, xububtu, etc.

I don't think it's a bad thing - non-default packages tend to not get much use, and are hard to brand.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by RMPR »

intarga wrote: post #47
ullarah wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hardly believe that anybody would use most of those environments on a daily use.

I’m one of them and we do. Why do you think we wouldn’t? They’re not lacking any capability, and we generally create them because they’re more efficient for our workflows.

Isn't the efficiency the concern of r/UsabilityPorn instead?

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by RMPR »

smabie wrote: post #49

What's the point of creating a new "distro" that just has a different window manager/desktop environment? Like, what kind of person would spend time doing that? Maybe that's a little harsh, but these kinds of projects seem completely pointless. Changing your wm/de doesn't take more than a couple minutes (including the download time). It might actually be harmful, the world doesn't need more distros, derivative or oth…

FWIW back in the days where Ubuntu used Unity, I tried to change my DE and fucked up my system, Idk, maybe I wasn't enough skilled to do thag1, but that was what make me switch to Fedora.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by RMPR »

brabel wrote: post #43
ittan wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome and KDE are indeed more beautiful.

Indeed.. I have been a Ubuntu user for some time, but have recently switched to KDE due to the latest Ubuntu desktop experiments which really put me off. After installing KDE Plasma, which I thought was a single DE, I was surprised to learn that, on the login page, I can actually select different DEs, like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland... that's really amazing! I have played around with Plasma and Cinnamon…

> like Cinnamon, Plasma, Ubuntu, Unity, Wayland...

Wayland is not a DE though.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by hiq »

nsomaru wrote: post #51
kstenerud wrote: post #20

My magicbook came with deepin linux installed, but unfortunately they're based off debian stable, which meant that most of the packages were severely outdated and unusable for me as a dev environment. The deepin desktop environment itself was pretty, but janky. The settings thing (on the right side of the screen) is difficult and unintuitive to navigate, and scrolling was still buggy when I used it in December (it wi…

Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.

I guess front-end development is the obvious one. The Node.js version on Debian Buster is 10.15.2~dfsg-2, while you have 12.16.2 on the official NodeJS website.

To be fair, OP mentioned that the official packages were often useless, not the distribution as a whole (you can often install custom packages / binaries, although it's not nice).

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by RMPR »

DeathArrow wrote: post #50

>UbuntuDDE is a Remix flavor of Ubuntu system with Deepin Desktop Environment (DDE) . UbuntuDDE is a linux distribution based on Ubuntu with the most beautiful desktop environment. So by imitating macOS look they got "the most beautiful desktop environment". I don't get it. If I want macOS, I would run the real deal, either by buying a Mac or by doing a hackintosh install. Earlier there were Linux distros trying to i…

It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world to create a new distro just to change the DE: Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (Xfce I think) , ... and now UbuntuDDE. It's even encouraged by Ubuntu's maintainers iirc.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by SubiculumCode »

hpaavola wrote: post #22

I hate all these "most beatiful Linux desktop" things. They all suck. Let's look at this pic: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/UbuntuDDE-D... It showcases the desktop of the "most beautiful desktop environment". Either it does not come with a browser installed, or the browser is not added to that launch bar or they changed the browser icon but not the email client icon. As the email client icon highli…

Personally, I like Ubuntu Mate. But hey, I just want functional with a ui that doesn't hide nice things like open terminal here, and the address bar, etc.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Post by mastrsushi »

smabie wrote: post #49

What's the point of creating a new "distro" that just has a different window manager/desktop environment? Like, what kind of person would spend time doing that? Maybe that's a little harsh, but these kinds of projects seem completely pointless. Changing your wm/de doesn't take more than a couple minutes (including the download time). It might actually be harmful, the world doesn't need more distros, derivative or oth…

This is a remix, not a distribution. Nothing more than Ubuntu with a pre-installed desktop environment. Remixes give users the same benefits installing yourself provide. But they do so while keeping the oobe that makes distros like Ubuntu intuitive and competitive.

I do agree the Linux distro ecosystem is a scattered mess. And that negative diversity of incompatible package managers and display systems goes against the standardizations that made POSIX dominant to begin with.

When I look at Elementary"OS", I see a branding built on the foundation of what could simply be Ubuntu Pantheon Remix.

The idea that these hundreds of mini distros is what caused desktop Linux to fail isn't true though. These projects are nothing more than the IT equivalent of your friend's mix tape. Or your girlfriend's slightly modified Martha Stewart recipe she boasts as her own.

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