Hard to not read that code name as "fecal fossil". Sorry if you can't get that out of your head now. I know I can't.
In portuguese I'm having a hard time not to read it as "fossa fecal" (~cesspool).
Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#222Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…
What's keeping Adobe from releasing Photoshop for Ubuntu ? Convincing ? Or real technical difficulties ? Like recoding the interface ?
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#223Most reviews are very positive. Faster, better, Amazon removed, maybe the best Ubuntu release until now. The only 'con' is the pushing of Snap packages. It looks like deb files only can be installed via the terminal. Ubuntu is also researching if they can get Adobe on board. I doubt this would ever happen, but that would be huge. Most people stick on Windows and MacOS because Adobe software is not available on Linux.…
I understand the hate for snap (and flatpak) and I personally use deb as much as I can, but they are the right move. Yes, right now it's a subpar experience. But you need to deploy it now to be able to improve on it and have it as the default in the future. And I believe it's a better future, because: - packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every rel…
> packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every release for anything that is not a simple program
Right, but the point of a high-quality distribution is that this complicated hard work only needs to be done once (per package, updated for upstream changes obviously) by your distribution's package maintainer. Then it scales for free. That's the beauty.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#224all sorts of apparmor issues, dhcp client doesn't even work out of box, need to run dhclient on every reboot
with rtlsdr (RTL2832U) plugged in, every process gets blocked
with nouveau, as soon as onboard HDMI (Intel) is connected, desktop becomes very sluggish and system locks up in a few minutes
I am impressed it works at all on release day. Previous LTS releases are hardly usable until LTS .03
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
huh how well does that work with individual downloaded *.deb packages? You're probably right, but, the included repos are usually full of outdated versions, if you get a too-new deb, from some experimental site, in terms of Ubuntu freshness, and then no pkgs in the repo will have a new enough version. (In terms of dependencies for the local exteriorally-gotten base pkg.deb and it's deps,) I guess ppa's are a thing, b…
> huh how well does that work with individual downloaded *.deb packages? You can `apt` to install `.deb` files on the local file system using: apt install ./path_to_the.deb
Since when, that's cool, I've been dpkg-ing my downloads. Then apt-fix-ing them to get necessary dependencies.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#226I love how easy it is to install snaps.
And no more including of PPAs of some developer whose apps seems nifty at first glance.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you ever tried to open an Excel Sheet from 2002, that one that is existencially important for the whole success of the company :), with makros as big as the Windows Codebase itself, in Libre Office? I can tell MS Office will not leave the field.
Don't you even get me started on xls from 2002. That pathetic standard was poorly supported even my MS itself, files were opening with great difficulties and differences even on same version of Excel on different PCs, and sometimes newer versions could not open them properly at all. Once I have discovered that one .XLS file could internally have different types of encoding within one same document. Anyway. It is clea…
Recently got some UX whiplash after being in engineer world for years and long ago migrated to .md/.rst over rich text editors. To quote the Matrix, "I don't even see the markdown anymore, I just see bold, italic, header..."
Then I started working with some folks on a Covid mask project and they are massively struggling with MS office docs, dropbox, file versioning, web deployment, wordpress, for something that needs both high uptime and fast updates. I'm like why not just use git, github, and jekyll static sites? Add better looking pages in time.
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Lets just say they weren't thrilled with that idea.
Sticking to open formats (flat text, odf) is a great start for the individual but it's still a workflow shift for everyone else, which is painful. It was a start reminder for me of the frustration I experienced when shifting my workflow to more open standards. Add to that some serious Hyrum's law when it comes to excel usage.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#228I love how easy it is to install snaps. And no more including of PPAs of some developer whose apps seems nifty at first glance.
If only, not every snap would come with its own version of Chrome/Electron.. Would save lots of storage and potentially RAM.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
I understand the hate for snap (and flatpak) and I personally use deb as much as I can, but they are the right move. Yes, right now it's a subpar experience. But you need to deploy it now to be able to improve on it and have it as the default in the future. And I believe it's a better future, because: - packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every rel…
> packaging a deb is difficult. I've done it, and it's a lot of complicated hard work you get to repeat for every release for anything that is not a simple program Right, but the point of a high-quality distribution is that this complicated hard work only needs to be done once (per package, updated for upstream changes obviously) by your distribution's package maintainer. Then it scales for free. That's the beauty.
Snaps solve the problems caused by users installing from third party apt repositories. Users do that today. Comparing against the virtues of distribution-provided packages is a strawman.
The exception is distribution packages like Chromium and Firefox. These don't work well in deb format, because users expect the latest upstream updates after the distribution releases, but upstreams add dependencies creating dependency hell for packagers. Snaps work better for this case.
Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)
#230I wonder if we'll ever get /usr/bin/python back. Or is it going to be like browser user-agent strings where we call it "python3" forever and forget why we can't just call it python?
apt-get install python-is-python3