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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by capableweb » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:52 AM UTC

jakear wrote: post #74

capableweb wrote: post #64

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Judging by your other comment ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22954061 ) you were using Software Center for the installing. Gdebi was working fine back before Software Center.

I was using whatever popped up in a default Ubuntu VM when I double clicked a .deb file. If they've chosen to make that not the best software for installing .deb's... lets just say I can see why people say Linux distributions tend to be user-unfreindly.

Ok, great story, but not really relevant to the conversation around the difference ways you can install a .deb, which is the subject of this particular sub-thread.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:54 AM UTC

oefrha wrote: post #120

iameli wrote: post #14

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Apt isn't going anywhere. What changed for you on the server side?

Just upgraded on my non-essential home server, and apparently lxd is only available via snap now, for whatever reason. https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lxd&searchon=nam...

You always have the ppa's, one reason, except snap, itself, that I moved. Let's hope it picks up and improves. Right.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by readwind » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:55 AM UTC

baq wrote: post #168

theelous3 wrote: post #102

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Sounds like something a human wouldn't have any use looking at anyway. Multi gb excel files? This is what programming is for.

Excel is a very nice purely functional programming environment with a fantastic debugger.

Excel is a nice flight-simulator, it's just too bad it doesn't wear a miniskirt.

Edit: here's the procedures to activate a flight sim in excel 97 as I understand https://kb.iu.edu/d/agqw

You can fly around using your mouse or the arrow keys. The monolith lists Excel 97's developers.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by UncleSlacky » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:56 AM UTC

doublesCs wrote: post #32

For a long time I've been using Lubuntu on my laptop. However, a couple of years ago they changed focus and From wikipedia: Lubuntu was originally touted as being "lighter, less resource hungry and more energy-efficient", but now aims to be "a functional yet modular distribution focused on getting out of the way and letting users use their computer" I stopped updating my OS since (I'm on 14). Does anyone care to sugg…

Bodhi, Peppermint and LXLE are all based on Ubuntu but use either LXDE, LXDE with elements of XFCE or (in Bodhi's case) the Moksha desktop, which is a fork of Enlightenment 17 - it's smaller and faster than LXDE.

Otherwise, go with a Debian or Devuan based distro like antiX, MX Linux, Q4OS Trinity, Refracta or EXE Linux.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by TimWolla » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:57 AM UTC

readwind wrote: post #170

usr1106 wrote: post #157

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apt is your friend. Or apt-get if you prefer old school. Or aptitude if you are willing to learn something pretty powerful.

huh how well does that work with individual downloaded *.deb packages? You're probably right, but, the included repos are usually full of outdated versions, if you get a too-new deb, from some experimental site, in terms of Ubuntu freshness, and then no pkgs in the repo will have a new enough version. (In terms of dependencies for the local exteriorally-gotten base pkg.deb and it's deps,) I guess ppa's are a thing, b…

> huh how well does that work with individual downloaded *.deb packages?

You can `apt` to install `.deb` files on the local file system using:

    apt install ./path_to_the.deb

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by Lev1a » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:58 AM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #124

nsomaru wrote: post #95

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Python 2.x is EOL Jan 2020

Yeah but didn't think anyone would have the balls to do it haha.

IIRC Arch did that years ago.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by viraptor » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 10:59 AM UTC

mehrdadn wrote: post #82

Just tried upgrading on WSL and I got an endless loop of sleep: cannot read realtime clock: Invalid argument Ctrl+C and then I get $ sudo apt --fix-broken install ... Setting up libc6:amd64 (2.31-0ubuntu9) ... Checking for services that may need to be restarted... Checking init scripts... Nothing to restart. sleep: cannot read realtime clock: Invalid argument dpkg: error processing package libc6:amd64 (--configure):…

That's more on WSL thank on Ubuntu though. It's up to WSL to support the syscalls correctly, not on Ubuntu to aim for whatever translation layer WSL1 supports.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:00 AM UTC

readwind wrote: post #170

usr1106 wrote: post #157

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apt is your friend. Or apt-get if you prefer old school. Or aptitude if you are willing to learn something pretty powerful.

huh how well does that work with individual downloaded *.deb packages? You're probably right, but, the included repos are usually full of outdated versions, if you get a too-new deb, from some experimental site, in terms of Ubuntu freshness, and then no pkgs in the repo will have a new enough version. (In terms of dependencies for the local exteriorally-gotten base pkg.deb and it's deps,) I guess ppa's are a thing, b…

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Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by FpUser » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:01 AM UTC

If I really need to sandbox anything I'll use the VM for that. As for the rest as a user I am staying away from bloat, slow startup and lots of other inconveniences of snap.

This whole security thing is getting really annoying.

Re: Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)

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Post by viraptor » Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:02 AM UTC

bluegreyred wrote: post #134

renewiltord wrote: post #121

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Canonical wisdom is to have separate / and /home so you can wipe system easily. I upgraded by grepping for the packages that were breaking resolution and removing them. But I already know the failure mode so that whole thing took a few minutes. I do have separate mounts for that reason though.

Interesting, is this feasible in everyday life? I do not use Linux on my desktop or notebook but I would like to do so in the near future. This means I should strive to keep all my user created data within the home directory at all times? How about program preferences and configs that get saved elsewhere by default? I imagine having ZFS snapshots of / would be useful for updates going forward.

I've gone through 3 laptops now with a migrated home. That included ubuntu -> arch -> fedora migration too. It works pretty well. (with more issues between distros than between version upgrades)

> This means I should strive to keep all my user created data within the home directory at all times?

Why would the user have privileges to save it outside of the home directory? :) Special cases like databases with storage in /var need to be handled separately.