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Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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My magicbook came with deepin linux installed, but unfortunately they're based off debian stable, which meant that most of the packages were severely outdated and unusable for me as a dev environment. The deepin desktop environment itself was pretty, but janky. The settings thing (on the right side of the screen) is difficult and unintuitive to navigate, and scrolling was still buggy when I used it in December (it wi…

Debian stable (buster currently) is my daily driver. I'm quite happy that I have stable targets of packages to develop against. I'm curious about the type of work you do that Debian packages are "outdated" and do not enable you to continue your work. I've used many different distros but I keep coming back to rock-solid Debian.

I've faced many issues with Debian a few years ago regarding the old packages, one of them was building stubby from source which required getdns 1.1.2 at least, no luck the one in the repository didn't satisfy the version requirement, I tried to build getdns from source but faced an issue with the too old GCC version, I had to "frankeindebian" with gcc and g++ from debian unstable repository. I then decided to switch to Fedora. Don't get me wrong, stability is good, especially when you have to deal with Nvidia. Fun fact: I tried to install CUDA on Fedora 31 Workstation but faced an issue with a too recent version of GCC, it really depends on the use cases.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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I find it baffling that a website who's sole purpose is to present "the most beautiful desktop environment" would present low resolution, reduced color screenshots to back the claim. examples: https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-l... https://ubuntudde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/ubuntudde-f... There are better screenshots behind the "Digital Assets" nav link, but I wouldn't have found that,…

Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life. Subscribe to /r/unixporn for a single week and you will be absolutely amazed at the shit you will learn.

It's 2020. Does the Mac OS allow the user to change the menu bar's color? I was forced to use a MacBook Air for work a couple of years ago and was shocked to find that I was forced to use the drab, grey color that was obviously borrowed from the 1970s Unixes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX, for example) via NeXTSTEP.

I cannot imagine why you would find the joy of configurability an "asinine dick swinging contest". I find /r/unixporn unpretentious and wholesome. I find most posts there done out of sheer joy and pride. No one is selling anything or shilling anything.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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post #2

Looks pretty, but being a bit out of the loop I'd really appreciate a quick "What's Deepin Desktop Environment?" and why I would want it on the landing page!

Deepin Desktop environment is the DE developed for the distro named .... Deepin, by a Chinese company, it's actually a fork of GNOME 3 focused on "beauty"

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Looks interesting, but couldn't this just sit on top of Ubuntu as a interchangeable desktop environment like KDE, Gnome, Unity etc..? Why fork the entire OS? ...

It's a common practice in the Ubuntu's world though: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ... now UbuntuDDE.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Well, now that you bring up Ubuntu, I wonder if anyone else out there dislikes its purple & orange color scheme. It might technically be a selection of compatible colors, but to me it's always looked ugly.

I always disliked orange. Not sure if it's because all those old school books in the 70's that used black and orange for the only colors. But that is the associations I get from orange. Old school books.

Maybe that says more about the books you read or were given to read than about the color orange

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life. Subscribe to /r/unixporn for a single week and you will be absolutely amazed at the shit you will learn.

It's 2020. Does the Mac OS allow the user to change the menu bar's color? I was forced to use a MacBook Air for work a couple of years ago and was shocked to find that I was forced to use the drab, grey color that was obviously borrowed from the 1970s Unixes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX , for example) via NeXTSTEP. I cannot imagine why you would find the joy of configurability an "asinine dick swinging contes…

It could be described as a "asinine dick swinging contest" because in their battle for DE domination they are all hurting the overarching "linux desktop" community by making sure that every developer would have to support many DE, window managers, distro's and what not to get a reliable app.

Having one DE emerge as victorious would greatly benefit linux desktops as a whole, even if it would kill customizability.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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post #62

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Desktop environments on Linux is really the most asinine dick swinging contest I have ever witnessed in my life. Subscribe to /r/unixporn for a single week and you will be absolutely amazed at the shit you will learn.

It's 2020. Does the Mac OS allow the user to change the menu bar's color? I was forced to use a MacBook Air for work a couple of years ago and was shocked to find that I was forced to use the drab, grey color that was obviously borrowed from the 1970s Unixes ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX , for example) via NeXTSTEP. I cannot imagine why you would find the joy of configurability an "asinine dick swinging contes…

It’s one thing to want a customizable dock... but you throw the baby out with the bath water when you abandon MacOS entirely because of it. I understand the dock is just one example, I’m sure you have many.

(You’ve always been able to change the settings of the Dock, it’s just not in Apple’s UI. In older times you could replace PNG assets yourself. Modern stuff is vector based but can still be tweaked. Remember iconfactory?!)

If it brings you joy to tinker with your DE to that extent by all means go for it and have fun. Personally, I like to tinker with my toys and like to get shit done with my professional tools. My Mac is a professional tool.

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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You are spot on yet at the same time this is about 99% of Linux. Would love to see us move back towards linux being linux (a kernel) and less of a need to even 'join' a Distro or pick sides if you will. You are really picking a package manager and a philosophy on upstream software ... it is unfortunate you're implicitly or inadvertently being forced to pick about 11,000 other things too.

this is missing an "I use arch btw" Those 11k other things are usually the minimum needed to have a production ready system that doesn't require you as a user to jump through hoops to provision and maintain.

You are a sissy if you don't pick the other 11k packages by hand. Just go and use mac you fanboy. /s

Re: Ubuntu Deepin Desktop Environment

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https://github.com/linuxdeepin/dde-file-manager/tree/develop...

Looking at the source code of one of the critical pieces of that distro, we can see that it has about 5 active devs (in the past 2 years). To me it looks like a strong project. Will be interesting to see where it is in 5 years. They need more presence on the various Linux news/discussion sites.

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