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curious why was the name Zeit not preferred?
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Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#172I gave up on Zeit when Now v2 came out because, besides it being more complex and a pain to migrate to, they went back on their promises about no vendor lock-in. Up until late 2018, their site had a very different philosophy that they abruptly abandoned. [1] [2] Fool me once... 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n... 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n...
Now v1 was such an awesome abstraction, I was inspired to recreate the CLI on top of Kubernetes, to avoid any vendor lock-in. I also needed v1 capabilities like websocket support that went away with the v2 lambdas. This CLI utility has support for a few major cloud Kubernetes providers. https://github.com/snowjs/cli
This looks great!
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#173Nextjs is most likely going to be the new Ruby on Rails. javascript all the way down, static rendering, PWA, server side rendering...everything baked in. This is a big backing for Next. However rebranding to Vercel is bad.
Agreed. I've shipped projects in ASP.Net MVC, Rails, Django, Grails, and Express, and to paraphrase Alan Kay[1], NextJS is the first javascript server-side framework worth criticizing.
[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/40435064/what-alan-kay-thinks-ab...
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
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A lot of products sound stupid when used in a sentence before you get used to them. We're having issues with zoom... We're having issues with chrome... We're having issues with word...
The less nonsensical the word in context, the more confusing it is though. Do you dispute that "we're having issues with time" is much more vague and overloaded, than "we're having issues with zoom"?
A camera developer might find "having issues with zoom" as confusing as a dev dealing with timezones finds "having issues with time". Everyone has a different context that may make your name confusing to them.
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#175I gave up on Zeit when Now v2 came out because, besides it being more complex and a pain to migrate to, they went back on their promises about no vendor lock-in. Up until late 2018, their site had a very different philosophy that they abruptly abandoned. [1] [2] Fool me once... 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n... 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n...
I honestly don't understand this fetishization of "serverless" functions. It leads to so much vendor lock-in, tooling complexity, and straight-up lack of features.
I built an ETL on top of AWS Lambda.
I had to pull data from Facebook/Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, and Pinterest on a schedule - once an hour. The pipeline took about 3 minutes to run. I used a CloudEvent cron to kick it off, a few lambdas, stored the raw data in S3, had another lambda massage that data, stored the final data into S3, and put a message into SQS letting my OLTP system know that it could bring it in.
Worked great. Were there other ways to build it? Sure. Could have done it on the same hosts that my OLTP system was running on. But the amount of memory it used for that 3 minutes doubled the amount that was needed on the host normally. Yes I could have optimized it. But my time was better spent figuring out other issues (I was sole developer on the project). So I just broke it into a bunch of different parts and kicked up to Lambda. Worked great. Never had any issues with it. Never worried about not having resources. I think it cost .2 to .8 USD each run? So ~600 USD a month at the high end. And it took me less than a day to break it up and get it running vs who knows how long to optimize.
So it definitely solved a problem I had in a very efficient way, and allowed me to speed it up just by spending money.
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#176"Jamstack" has to be the worst name for an architecture ever. "Javascript", "APIs", and "markup"... uhhh you mean like what the entire web already runs on?
It stands for "Just Attempt Moving" off of our hosted service.
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#177I liked Zeit but had to switch because there was no way to get IP addresses to whitelist, so Vercel customers are likely to get hacked, because they’re forced to secure their database with only a password, and no firewall. Apparently you can fix this with an “enterprise” subscription, which is a huge red flag. Open source doesn’t get secure data? Vercel is likely to get hit with huge lawsuits over that, and I’m stayi…
What lawsuits? Don't virtually all open-source licenses in existence disclaim any warranty or fitness for a particular purpose?
True, and I’m not a lawyer, but I don’t care about them getting sued, I care about the fact I can’t protect customers’ data if I use Vercel
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#179Congrats on the funding, but I'd like to know what prompted the name change. ZEIT sounded mysterious and edgy, while Vercel sounds like a company selling expensive handbags (to me).
Zeit means "time" in German, is the name of a German newspaper, and surely made organic SEO a challenge...much like Now did.
How about zeit.js, it worked fine for next.js
Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A
#180Nextjs is most likely going to be the new Ruby on Rails. javascript all the way down, static rendering, PWA, server side rendering...everything baked in. This is a big backing for Next. However rebranding to Vercel is bad.
Ruby on Rails is still the new Ruby on Rails. JS solutions still need another five years to catch up, unfortunately.
What do you feel like JS solutions are still missing?