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Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

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Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#142

I gave up on Zeit when Now v2 came out because, besides it being more complex and a pain to migrate to, they went back on their promises about no vendor lock-in. Up until late 2018, their site had a very different philosophy that they abruptly abandoned. [1] [2] Fool me once... 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n... 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n...

Now v1 was such an awesome abstraction, I was inspired to recreate the CLI on top of Kubernetes, to avoid any vendor lock-in. I also needed v1 capabilities like websocket support that went away with the v2 lambdas. This CLI utility has support for a few major cloud Kubernetes providers. https://github.com/snowjs/cli

Concur, if you're looking for a replacement for the old Now v1, snowjs is a great option. Haven't used it extensively since we moved away from Now, but when I was investigating alternatives I came across this and gave it a go and was very pleased.

Ultimately we went another way but it is a solid project.

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#143

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I connected it to none of those words. Instead, I connected it to a) some kind of telephone company that is dodgy b) incels.

Vercel sounds like something about vermin and incels.

Lmao... this is what I heard when I read the word the first time too. "Incel..?"

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#144
post #59

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Everything you liked about ZEIT is present in Vercel! You can read more about it in our rebrand field book: https://www.notion.so/Vercel-Launch-1cab2369ab1c4d8db1987b68...

Everything I liked about Zeit was Now v1, so, not really?

It took me awhile to come to terms with the truth that "You are not their target customer." Fair enough.

Except that they built their brand off the backs of people they no longer want using their platform...

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#145
I had a ton of trouble getting a simple gatsby.js website running on Zeit. Kept getting useless error messages that were impossible to debug.

Tried Netlify and it worked without any changes to my code. The Zeit UI might be slicker, but it definitely isn't easier to use imo.

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#146
post #68

I gave up on Zeit when Now v2 came out because, besides it being more complex and a pain to migrate to, they went back on their promises about no vendor lock-in. Up until late 2018, their site had a very different philosophy that they abruptly abandoned. [1] [2] Fool me once... 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n... 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n...

I honestly don't understand this fetishization of "serverless" functions. It leads to so much vendor lock-in, tooling complexity, and straight-up lack of features.

To offer another perspective... I've migrated services to/from Now v2 (never used v1). While recently moving a Go service off (to a regular server) all that was changed was some bash that executed in a pre-deploy hook and the `now` command was swapped for a `scp`. `sed 's/package main/package handler/g'`. Of course, this is much simpler if the services are created with migration in mind.

I like to think of the builder options put in the `now.json` file as I would a webpack config.

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#147
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Same with this: > Vercel strongly connects to the words versatile, accelerate, and excel. It also "strongly connects" to the words "vermin" and "decelerate".

It sounds like a new car name. 2020 Toyota Vercel. Wasn't there a model called the Tercel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Tercel

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#148
post #68

I gave up on Zeit when Now v2 came out because, besides it being more complex and a pain to migrate to, they went back on their promises about no vendor lock-in. Up until late 2018, their site had a very different philosophy that they abruptly abandoned. [1] [2] Fool me once... 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n... 2: https://web.archive.org/web/20181107092845/https://zeit.co/n...

I honestly don't understand this fetishization of "serverless" functions. It leads to so much vendor lock-in, tooling complexity, and straight-up lack of features.

people are in love with engineering but not shipping paid products. a rails | django | laravel developer is busy shipping. while someone is busy developing 1000s microservices. n that's before the complexity of react, redux n graphql

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#149
post #15

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EDIT: Not sure why, but from the article: > Vercel strongly connects to the words versatile, accelerate, and excel.

Self-delusional marketingspeak. To me 'Vercel' sounds like a brand of cheap batteries.

Sounds boring and enterprisey to me.

Re: Vercel, formerly Zeit, raises $21M Series A

#150
I liked Zeit but had to switch because there was no way to get IP addresses to whitelist, so Vercel customers are likely to get hacked, because they’re forced to secure their database with only a password, and no firewall. Apparently you can fix this with an “enterprise” subscription, which is a huge red flag. Open source doesn’t get secure data? Vercel is likely to get hit with huge lawsuits over that, and I’m staying well clear until it’s fixed
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