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If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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>The market is saying the iPad is "post-pc" It is? How?

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has? Dell might as well announce liquidation right now. ($75 on crai…

Looking at Dell's price for the last 10 years (http://yhoo.it/fCdFBo), that doesn't seem to be a great business to be in. The upgrade cycle is slowing, margins are falling and the mainstream consumer just don't care much about the "latest and greatest" any more when it comes to computers.

The reality is that for most users (non-gamers) the power of computers long ago exceeded what they need. Does is really matter if a computer is 3X or 10X faster than you need?

This is a classic market transition where once performance hits some level, other product attributes become important to consumers because they no longer see any material benefit from marginal performance increases.

If you're mostly using your computer to check email and facebook, you don't need a quad core.

(This applies to even fairly tech-heavy folks - I used to replace my desktop like clockwork every two years for almost 15 years, but I'm typing on this on a 4+-year-old MacBook black that's still plenty fast for coding, image processing and web browsing. I expect I'll use it at least another year and I only paid $1500 for it to start with. I'll prob replace it with a 13" MacBook Air, which won't be much of a performance bump - it will be a form factor bump.)

I remember the days when it was all about having the 386/33 or whatever the latest top-of-the-line Mhz was. Now I doubt if you asked most folks, they could even tell you how fast the processor is in their system. It just doesn't matter much any more, same as only car folks really care what BHP their engine delivers these days.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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We talk a lot about "lean startups" here. I think this is an example of Apple being lean and going where the market has taken them. My guess is that, as they were building the iPad, they had a hunch things could go this way (e.g. "post-pc device"), but weren't sure. Rather than spend billions building out an infrastructure on a hunch, they build the device and have followed the market. The market is saying the iPad i…

If you get one unlocked in the store, why can't your mother switch?

Backing up data and upgrading the OS.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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We're in a transitional period. The vast majority of people who have iPads do have a PC of some kind also. For now it's the most practical way of doing backups, updates, and syncing large amounts of content. I do think Apple will move in the direction of not requiring a PC for these things but it's non-trival. How do you sync 16-64GB of data over 3G? Do you push 300MB+ updates to someone with a 150MB/month data cap?…

What iOS updates have required erasing/resyncing? I can't remember ever having to do that.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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I hear a lot of complaints about iTunes, but it works pretty well for me - on a Mac. Are you using the Windows version?

iTunes is, perhaps, the least intuitive piece of software I've used in the past decade. I have, on three separate occasions now, deleted my entire music collection on the PC while trying to get music from the machine onto the iPod or iPhone. It's happened once on a Mac and twice on the Windows version of iTunes. I no longer even install iTunes, because I'm afraid of it. (I use an Android phone now, don't have an iPad…

Same with me...I had to take my laptop in to an apple store so they could show me how to copy some mp3's to my iPhone.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Silly strawman. Actually none of them watched video at all. They used maps, google earth, the browser, a Craigslist app, the photos app, and kindle. But I guess I've fallen for a troll.

Not a straw man, it was an example. I am not trolling. PCs can be used for all manner of things, some things that they are now used for are better suited to other devices. Some things are perfectly suited to PCs and other devices just fail to measure up. My point is, iPad ownership and PC ownership are not mutually exclusive. Having an iPad does not mean you are done with PCs.

Fair enough. I don't think that's what post-PC is intended to mean though. Really I think it's just a comment about where the growth is.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Had those in 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Compaq_TC1100

And we had tablets in the year 2000 too. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/nov00/11-13... I guess we don't really have it until it gains wide adoption.

No, in that case we have it, it just doesn't have wide adoption. All of the trappings of the typical office of 1995, (Ethernet LANS, WYSIWYG word processing, windowed OS) we had back in the 1970's at Xerox PARC.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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This really really annoys me about the ipad. Furthermore, for some extra annoyance, Itunes does not run on linux, so I cannot run it. And even after I secured a windows computer to run itunes, I discovered that itunes is a really slow, extremely badly designed, confusing and annoying piece of software. It took me forever to upgrade my ipad to the new os.

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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We're in a transitional period. The vast majority of people who have iPads do have a PC of some kind also. For now it's the most practical way of doing backups, updates, and syncing large amounts of content. I do think Apple will move in the direction of not requiring a PC for these things but it's non-trival. How do you sync 16-64GB of data over 3G? Do you push 300MB+ updates to someone with a 150MB/month data cap?…

What iOS updates have required erasing/resyncing? I can't remember ever having to do that.

I updated my stepmother-in-law's iPod touch 3g from iOS 3.something to iOS 4.2, and it required a full backup and restore.
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