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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by rbarooah » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:23 PM UTC

gpjt wrote: post #24

nickpp wrote: post #9

Because syncing a 32gb personal collection of music, movies and photos wirelessly takes too long? Funny I think it's only people without any iTunes purchase complaining about this. The ones enjoying the media capabilities of the iPad, capabilities completely missing from Android, have no complains.

But what if you don't want to sync all of that? The article made it clear that the problem is that you need to connect to iTunes just to turn the iPad on the first time .

The article is wrong about that if you buy one from a store.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by rbarooah » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:25 PM UTC

patrickaljord wrote: post #4

Android devices are post-pc.

Serious question - if you buy an unlocked iPad from the store, what can't you do with it that you can do with an Android tablet?

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by mdwrigh2 » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:27 PM UTC

smhinsey wrote: post #41

blinkingled wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an SD card - not microSD - you might want to revisit your order. Sandisk 32Gb ( http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-MicroSDHC-SDSDQ-032G-A11M-Reta... ) works for me on 2-3 devices.

Yeah, my mistake, I just saw the similar description and figured it was the same model. The Amazon link is the one I ordered. Good looking out though, thanks.

Sorry about that, I've updated it to be a microSDHC card now. I clearly wasn't paying enough attention with my original link.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by code_duck » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:28 PM UTC

patrickaljord wrote: post #4

Android devices are post-pc.

Once the average Android device has a monitor output, they'll really be post-PC. And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs?

Most of the Android device manufacturers don't have a horse in the laptop/desktop race - Samsung, HTC, Motorola all only stand to gain by replacing traditional desktop OSs. Apple probably still wants to sell you a MacBook. That's why I think Android will beat Apple to the true post-PC era.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:29 PM UTC

siglesias wrote: post #5

actually they'll unlock it in the store if you don't own a PC.

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by tomelders » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:30 PM UTC

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. But all in all, it's a tiresome, dull, petty point to raise.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by stcredzero » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:30 PM UTC

melling wrote: post #36

g0atbutt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true, but I think a "post-pc" device should be able to stand on it's own two legs. Thanks for pointing this out, I meant to include it in my article.

Yes, ideally they will stand on their own two legs. However, as with most things there is an imperfect transition. Hopefully, great Android tablets will soon arrive and we'll be off to the races. I want a tablet that I can slide next to a keyboard, mouse and monitor and that becomes my desktop, as needed.

Had those in 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Compaq_TC1100

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by PostOnce » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:31 PM UTC

recoiledsnake wrote: post #47

SoftwareMaven wrote: post #42

We talk a lot about "lean startups" here. I think this is an example of Apple being lean and going where the market has taken them. My guess is that, as they were building the iPad, they had a hunch things could go this way (e.g. "post-pc device"), but weren't sure. Rather than spend billions building out an infrastructure on a hunch, they build the device and have followed the market. The market is saying the iPad i…

>The market is saying the iPad is "post-pc" It is? How?

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has?

Dell might as well announce liquidation right now.

($75 on craigslist gets you a computer 3x as powerful with 3x as much ram and 10x+ as much disk space as an iPad, which only costs $500)

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by hristov » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:32 PM UTC

This really really annoys me about the ipad. Furthermore, for some extra annoyance, Itunes does not run on linux, so I cannot run it. And even after I secured a windows computer to run itunes, I discovered that itunes is a really slow, extremely badly designed, confusing and annoying piece of software. It took me forever to upgrade my ipad to the new os.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by code_duck » Sat, Mar 05, 2011, 9:32 PM UTC

Do iPads actually let you manage your music without using iTunes on a desktop? I know my iPod doesn't. You can add music to it directly by purchasing in the iTunes store, but not delete music. I can't see any clear reason why, but this restriction must do something for Apple.