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If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by rbarooah »

PostOnce wrote: post #58
recoiledsnake wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The market is saying the iPad is "post-pc" It is? How?

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has? Dell might as well announce liquidation right now. ($75 on crai…

My parents and my mother in law literally don't want to do any of the things you just listed, but all of them have found my iPad useful, could use it immediately, and want one.

That $75 computer on Craigslist simply can't do things in the same way.

It's like comparing a mountain bike with a 15 year old pickup truck. You can spend $1000 on either, and the truck will go further, faster and carrying a greater load. But the mountain bike will go places the truck can't go, and the experience will be totally different.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by rbarooah »

recoiledsnake wrote: post #62
PostOnce wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has? Dell might as well announce liquidation right now. ($75 on crai…

Well, I am sure someone is composing a message right now about how all those are either possible on the iPad (possible != best job for it) or are used only by geeks/developers who will go the way of the dinosaur(cue analogy of trucks vs. cars). ;) Maybe the message is taking so much time to be written because it's being composed on a iPad(yes I know h/w keyboards can be used).

Yes - I was although I think a mountain bike is a better analogy. But seriously - people can't see the difference between an iPad and a $75 PC off Craigslist? Perhaps a pair of spectacles is in order.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by w1ntermute »

code_duck wrote: post #70
hristov wrote: post #59

This really really annoys me about the ipad. Furthermore, for some extra annoyance, Itunes does not run on linux, so I cannot run it. And even after I secured a windows computer to run itunes, I discovered that itunes is a really slow, extremely badly designed, confusing and annoying piece of software. It took me forever to upgrade my ipad to the new os.

I hear a lot of complaints about iTunes, but it works pretty well for me - on a Mac. Are you using the Windows version?

> I hear a lot of complaints about iTunes, but it works pretty well for me - on a Mac. Are you using the Windows version?

even after I secured a windows computer to run itunes

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by PostOnce »

rbarooah wrote: post #71
PostOnce wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has? Dell might as well announce liquidation right now. ($75 on crai…

My parents and my mother in law literally don't want to do any of the things you just listed, but all of them have found my iPad useful, could use it immediately, and want one. That $75 computer on Craigslist simply can't do things in the same way. It's like comparing a mountain bike with a 15 year old pickup truck. You can spend $1000 on either, and the truck will go further, faster and carrying a greater load. But…

If all you ever use your PC for is Hulu, then what you need is a TV, and televisions are not "post-PC", they're a different product entirely, nor will they ever replace PCs. :P

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by allertonm »

zaphar wrote: post #29
allertonm wrote: post #20

The author seems to assume that Apple is either unaware of the contradiction or aware of it with no plan to change. In other words, that the management of Apple is either stupid or blind. Recent history does not suggest that either is the case. It seems more likely to me that Apple is very much aware of the contradiction but has plans to change this, but no intention of telling us about it yet. Gotta wonder what that…

The author mentions the data center and it's likelihood as a solution. His point was that until that DC comes on line and is used as a solution it's disingenuous to call the iPad a post-pc device because it isn't, it's a peripheral. If and when they fix that then you can start calling a post-pc device. Meanwhile an Android pad really is a post-pc device right now no waiting.

Even if the author was right about the iPad not being a post-PC device, your assertion that it is just a peripheral is laughable hyperbole.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by czhiddy »

code_duck wrote: post #69
czhiddy wrote: post #66

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"And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs?" They've already had 30-pin to VGA output for quite a while now, and now HDMI out with the latest dongle accessory.

Android phones will have monitor outs, though, not just the tablets. How about the iPhone or iPod Touch? They could fit an Apple monitor connector in the side of an iPhone, but I think it will be a long time before we see that.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC552ZM/A

"Watch slideshows and movies on the big screen by connecting your iPad, iPhone 4, or iPod touch (4th generation) to a TV, monitor, projector, or LCD display that uses a VGA connector."

I haven't really looked into it much, so I don't know if apps are limited to mirroring content, or if they can display another screen worth of UI/etc through the cable.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by [deleted] »

Skroob wrote: post #39
zyb09 wrote: post #30

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Potential sure, but the new GarageBand etc. are still just toys, even if Steve claims otherwise. No body is gonna use GarageBand or iMovies to produce something, that gets sold on iTunes.

I think you're wrong about that, but we'll have to wait to find out. So how about Brushes, which was used to make two New Yorker covers?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by recoiledsnake »

Skroob wrote: post #39
zyb09 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Potential sure, but the new GarageBand etc. are still just toys, even if Steve claims otherwise. No body is gonna use GarageBand or iMovies to produce something, that gets sold on iTunes.

I think you're wrong about that, but we'll have to wait to find out. So how about Brushes, which was used to make two New Yorker covers?

And this was made in MS Paint --> http://diamonster.deviantart.com/art/powerdraw-17908194?full...

Should people ditch photoshop now?

Just because there a few examples doesn't make it a suitable tool for most people.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by rbarooah »

PostOnce wrote: post #74
rbarooah wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My parents and my mother in law literally don't want to do any of the things you just listed, but all of them have found my iPad useful, could use it immediately, and want one. That $75 computer on Craigslist simply can't do things in the same way. It's like comparing a mountain bike with a 15 year old pickup truck. You can spend $1000 on either, and the truck will go further, faster and carrying a greater load. But…

If all you ever use your PC for is Hulu, then what you need is a TV, and televisions are not "post-PC", they're a different product entirely, nor will they ever replace PCs. :P

Silly strawman. Actually none of them watched video at all. They used maps, google earth, the browser, a Craigslist app, the photos app, and kindle.

But I guess I've fallen for a troll.

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