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If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by recoiledsnake »

allertonm wrote: post #20

The author seems to assume that Apple is either unaware of the contradiction or aware of it with no plan to change. In other words, that the management of Apple is either stupid or blind. Recent history does not suggest that either is the case. It seems more likely to me that Apple is very much aware of the contradiction but has plans to change this, but no intention of telling us about it yet. Gotta wonder what that…

>The author seems to assume that Apple is either unaware of the contradiction or aware of it with no plan to change. In other words, that the management of Apple is either stupid or blind. Recent history does not suggest that either is the case.

If it had no intention of telling us about it, why call it a Post-PC device?

They wanted to create media hype among the crowd and the media and bloggers. Just like Motorola likes to bill the Xoom as an iPad killer because of the spec difference, Jobs want to posture the iPad as a PC killer because of the high sales. Truth doesn't enter into the conversation in either case and is kind of afterthought to the objectives behind such posturing. Only geeks like us would be arguing over such things.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by recoiledsnake »

PostOnce wrote: post #58
recoiledsnake wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The market is saying the iPad is "post-pc" It is? How?

Do you not do all your coding, photo editing, FPS fragging, word processing, and spreadsheets on an iPad yet? Don't you have one sitting in your basement acting as a home media and web server? I'm not even going to get into how much more upgradable they are than PCs. How could you ever possibly need more than the few hundred megs of ram that an iPad has? Dell might as well announce liquidation right now. ($75 on crai…

Well, I am sure someone is composing a message right now about how all those are either possible on the iPad (possible != best job for it) or are used only by geeks/developers who will go the way of the dinosaur(cue analogy of trucks vs. cars).

;) Maybe the message is taking so much time to be written because it's being composed on a iPad(yes I know h/w keyboards can be used).

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by hristov »

nickpp wrote: post #9

Because syncing a 32gb personal collection of music, movies and photos wirelessly takes too long? Funny I think it's only people without any iTunes purchase complaining about this. The ones enjoying the media capabilities of the iPad, capabilities completely missing from Android, have no complains.

So just because it happens to be convenient for you, you want everyone to be forced into that mode?

Sure wire synching with a computer should be possible for people that have huge music collections and are too eager to let their ipad sit on their desk one night to synch everything. But why is it required?

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by melling »

stcredzero wrote: post #57
melling wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, ideally they will stand on their own two legs. However, as with most things there is an imperfect transition. Hopefully, great Android tablets will soon arrive and we'll be off to the races. I want a tablet that I can slide next to a keyboard, mouse and monitor and that becomes my desktop, as needed.

Had those in 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Compaq_TC1100

And we had tablets in the year 2000 too.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/nov00/11-13...

I guess we don't really have it until it gains wide adoption.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by czhiddy »

code_duck wrote: post #54
patrickaljord wrote: post #4

Android devices are post-pc.

Once the average Android device has a monitor output, they'll really be post-PC. And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs? Most of the Android device manufacturers don't have a horse in the laptop/desktop race - Samsung, HTC, Motorola all only stand to gain by replacing traditional desktop OSs. Apple probably still wants to sell you a MacBook. That's why I think Android will beat Apple to the tr…

"And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs?"

They've already had 30-pin to VGA output for quite a while now, and now HDMI out with the latest dongle accessory.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by code_duck »

czhiddy wrote: post #66
code_duck wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once the average Android device has a monitor output, they'll really be post-PC. And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs? Most of the Android device manufacturers don't have a horse in the laptop/desktop race - Samsung, HTC, Motorola all only stand to gain by replacing traditional desktop OSs. Apple probably still wants to sell you a MacBook. That's why I think Android will beat Apple to the tr…

"And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs?" They've already had 30-pin to VGA output for quite a while now, and now HDMI out with the latest dongle accessory.

Android phones will have monitor outs, though, not just the tablets. How about the iPhone or iPod Touch?

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by code_duck »

czhiddy wrote: post #66
code_duck wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once the average Android device has a monitor output, they'll really be post-PC. And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs? Most of the Android device manufacturers don't have a horse in the laptop/desktop race - Samsung, HTC, Motorola all only stand to gain by replacing traditional desktop OSs. Apple probably still wants to sell you a MacBook. That's why I think Android will beat Apple to the tr…

"And the big question is will the iOS devices have monitor outs?" They've already had 30-pin to VGA output for quite a while now, and now HDMI out with the latest dongle accessory.

Android phones will have monitor outs, though, not just the tablets. How about the iPhone or iPod Touch? They could fit an Apple monitor connector in the side of an iPhone, but I think it will be a long time before we see that.

Re: If iPads are “post-pc devices” why must I sync with iTunes before I can use one?

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Post by code_duck »

hristov wrote: post #59

This really really annoys me about the ipad. Furthermore, for some extra annoyance, Itunes does not run on linux, so I cannot run it. And even after I secured a windows computer to run itunes, I discovered that itunes is a really slow, extremely badly designed, confusing and annoying piece of software. It took me forever to upgrade my ipad to the new os.

I hear a lot of complaints about iTunes, but it works pretty well for me - on a Mac. Are you using the Windows version?
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