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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by mixologic » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 5:18 AM UTC

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

This is essentially my exact setup. Anytime I need docker support I run a Linux vm in vagrant/virtual box. Nice having 64gb of ram and nvme2 ssds.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by freakcage » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 AM UTC

is it possible to dual boot mac os and Linux/windows or even triple boot?

I search last time no support for rtx gpu card in hackintosh. So I'm thinking to buy second gpu. What is best value gpu that support hackintosh?

My setup right now is amd r5 3600 with rtx 2060 super. I'm currently running dual boot windows 10 & Ubuntu.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by cutler » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 5:27 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #132

Hackintosh has a tendency to create amusing technical problems, so I thought I'd share some I've come across over the years. --- I had one computer that would only boot if a specific USB Bluetooth adapter was connected. If it wasn't inserted while the computer turned on, I'd get a kernel panic during the bootup process. However, I could unplug the adapter after boot and everything would be fine. I didn't notice the p…

I'm still using a Hackintosh (Gigabyte EX58-UD5) I built in January 2010 as my main desktop. Bought a second-hand graphics card on eBay for £50 and upgraded it to Mojave. Everything works fine except sleep which I don't really miss.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Hamuko » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 8:22 AM UTC

agildehaus wrote: post #137

sahin-boydas wrote: post #68

This will give so many opportunities to people who can pay their 10x monthly income to a buy 2-year-old mac :)) I think Apple had a stupid idea to become more luxurious and hire Angela Jean Ahrendts for 100M. God bless they realize, if they go for volume and price aggressive (as Steve Jobs said), more people can benefit. I want hackintosh to work so well that indirectly, it will force Apple to develop way cheaper com…

Apple appears to be headed in the direction of making their own processors for their desktops and laptops, so this Hackintosh business isn't going to last much longer.

That's assuming that they completely abandon Intel, which would mean that the Mac Pro would not be offered with a 28-core Intel Xeon W, but rather with an ARM processor that has comparable performance (or not offered at all).

But even if Apple shifts to 100% ARM, Hackintosh community still has whatever number of years that Apple still has to support the computers that they are selling now / selling until ARM takes completely over.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by unicornfinder » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

_fzslm wrote: post #55

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

also Adobe software requires patches, which is a little bit more of a dealbreaker.

To be honest quite a few apps don't seem to play nicely without the Intel-specific instructions present. REAPER won't run at all, Cubase crashes unless you remove the surround panner VST, Pro Tools would crash on launch last time I tried it (but this may have been fixed since)...

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by vasac » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:29 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #132

Hackintosh has a tendency to create amusing technical problems, so I thought I'd share some I've come across over the years. --- I had one computer that would only boot if a specific USB Bluetooth adapter was connected. If it wasn't inserted while the computer turned on, I'd get a kernel panic during the bootup process. However, I could unplug the adapter after boot and everything would be fine. I didn't notice the p…

At the time I was starting with Hackintosh it was unable to boot every now and then. I couldn't figure out what's going on because months could pass without any issues.

At the end it turned out that boot went right only if my microserver (NAS) was turned on. I guess I had an SMB mount that failed before GUI even started. Couple of weeks after I figured what was going on a new version of macOS was published and I switched - never had similar problem again.

Even now I'm not 100% sure that networking issue was exact cause but it certainly looked that way at the time.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 10:54 AM UTC

x3sphere wrote: post #72

I use OpenCore but have switched my Hackintosh system over to running in a VM (using GPU passthrough). It's easier for me to backup / make changes this way, and there is only a minor performance hit. This is a Geekbench run from my VM (Core i9 10940x with 4 cores passed through): https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15395105 I have a Windows 10 VM running on a same system too. It may not be suitable if you require vi…

For Android I would try to run its emulator on a host machine and make it accessible via network (AFAIK adb works with emulator via TCP connection anyway).

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by vbezhenar » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 11:17 AM UTC

mmm_grayons wrote: post #23

Moto7451 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ditto. I built one last week. Everything was straightforward and the documentation great. My only criticism of the state of building a Hackintosh is the amount of cargo cult advise out there. Figuring out my Audio took longer than it should as finding the layout-id for my ALC892 was buried in threads where everyone kept parroting “use ID 1, 2, and 3 or just keep trying numbers until it works.” My board needed layout-…

> My only criticism of the state of building a Hackintosh is the amount of cargo cult advise out there. Absolutely right. I think the issue behind this is that many people are repeating advice without understanding why it matters because it worked for them. So, you end up with people cargo-culting SSDT overlays, boot arguments, and other miscellaneous settings. This is somewhat inevitable with something technical, bu…

I think that the main issue is people who lack technical expertise and just want to install macOS but do not want to buy Apple hardware. They don't understand technical manuals and they'll spread gossip knowledge.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by w0utert » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 11:49 AM UTC

wtallis wrote: post #129

omnimus wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can i run 3 screens if the gpu has enough outputs? I mean will it work as it would if it was not vm?

Yes. The VM guest operating system's GPU drivers are not aware of the fact that they're running in a VM, and have full transparent access to all the hardware resources of the GPU that's assigned to that VM.

I have another question about this. Can I also use the GPU that is passed-through to the guest from the host, once the guest is shut down?

For example, say I build a linux host with IGP + powerful discrete GPU. Can I use KVM to pass the discrete GPU to Windows if I want to play a game (using the IGP for the linux desktop) but also use the discreet GPU for Linux CUDA programming after the Windows guest is shut down?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by wayneftw » Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 12:37 PM UTC

vasac wrote: post #156

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #132

Hackintosh has a tendency to create amusing technical problems, so I thought I'd share some I've come across over the years. --- I had one computer that would only boot if a specific USB Bluetooth adapter was connected. If it wasn't inserted while the computer turned on, I'd get a kernel panic during the bootup process. However, I could unplug the adapter after boot and everything would be fine. I didn't notice the p…

At the time I was starting with Hackintosh it was unable to boot every now and then. I couldn't figure out what's going on because months could pass without any issues. At the end it turned out that boot went right only if my microserver (NAS) was turned on. I guess I had an SMB mount that failed before GUI even started. Couple of weeks after I figured what was going on a new version of macOS was published and I swit…

I have had these same kind of problems with regular Macs.

My 2010 Mac Pro won’t boot without a specific type of DVI cable and display. Certain standard USB peripherals (including some mice) don’t work or cause other problems on my 2015 Macbook Pro while they work just fine on my Linux or Windows machines.

This is not just a problem with Hackintoshes.