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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#101

Post by Wowfunhappy »

cmurf wrote: post #99

I wonder if OpenCore would enable me to (a) passthrough an i915 GPU but not an AMD GPU; (b) run Catalina on a Mac that doesn't support it? I have an ancient macbookpro 8,2 with the defect that eventually leads to AMD GPU failure (it failed, was replaced under warranty extension, failed again same number of years later). I use GRUB iowr.mod and outb commands to disable the AMD GPU on boot so it's not even seen by Linu…

I haven't looked into this for Catalina, but for most past releases, there are community tools for installing the OS on unsupported Macs (to whatever level of success is possible on your hardware).

That's going to be a lot easier then OpenCore.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#102

Post by throwlaplace »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #97
throwlaplace wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But my question with piracy is always, where do you dry the line? this has already been hashed out during the late 90s and early 00s in the context of media piracy: software and media are non-rivalrous goods. me pirating the good does not prevent anyone else from purchasing. it is not a loss to the developer or content creator because i was never going to purchase it in the first place. > but that's still a moral j…

> it is not a loss to the developer or content creator because i was never going to purchase it in the first place. How do you know that you were "never going to purchase it in the first place"? There are lots of products where I initially looked at the price tag, thought "that's ridiculous", and walked away—but eventually came back and bought it, sometimes kicking and screaming. Again, I don't think I can make a fai…

> Again, I don't think I can make a fair judgement about what I "would buy" when I have a financial stake

i'm at a loss for to how parse this let alone how to respond to it. who else but you "can make a fair judgement" about whether you'll buy something?

i don't have shifting perspectives on whether i'll buy something - i either decide to buy something or i decide not to buy it. if i decide to buy something but i don't have money for it i save money and buy it eventually.

to drive home the point: i pirate movies instead of going to theaters. if some movie that i was interested in seeing never gets released on some torrent site i do not buy that movie i simply do not watch it. on the other hand i do buy books even though i could pirate them easily.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#103

Post by Wowfunhappy »

pottertheotter wrote: post #85
jeroenhd wrote: post #65

Every time I see OpenCore I feel like trying to make a Hackintosh again, but then I remember that my GPU is an Nvidia one and that it will never have drivers on any recent macOS releases. My laptop is another contender, but that has an Intel wireless card so that will never be supported either. The network card issue can probably be worked around through some virtualisation, but the laptop CPU is too old to do IOMMU…

No Nvidia drivers is very frustrating. I built a Hackintosh in mid 2017 with a GTX 1080 and it was a dream. Accidentally killed my build and didn't have time to figure out how to fix it, so I was using my hardware as an Ubuntu server for a lot of data processing and machine learning. Finally turned it back into a Hackintosh again this week and was so bummed to find out Mojave and Catalina don't have Nvidia drivers. G…

Personally, I would just throw High Sierra back on the machine. It's the best of the semi-recent macOS releases anyway.

It's going to go out of support when 10.16 is presumably released this fall, but... I don't know, live a little!

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#104

Post by therealmarv »

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

ah good to know. So at least never an AMD hackintosh for me. Are this problems completely gone with Intel hackintoshes?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#105

Post by Wowfunhappy »

throwlaplace wrote: post #102
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it is not a loss to the developer or content creator because i was never going to purchase it in the first place. How do you know that you were "never going to purchase it in the first place"? There are lots of products where I initially looked at the price tag, thought "that's ridiculous", and walked away—but eventually came back and bought it, sometimes kicking and screaming. Again, I don't think I can make a fai…

> Again, I don't think I can make a fair judgement about what I "would buy" when I have a financial stake i'm at a loss for to how parse this let alone how to respond to it. who else but you "can make a fair judgement" about whether you'll buy something? i don't have shifting perspectives on whether i'll buy something - i either decide to buy something or i decide not to buy it. if i decide to buy something but i don…

> who else but you "can make a fair judgement" about whether you'll buy something?

I can make a fair judgement when "not buying" means I don't get the product.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by DelightOne »

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

This here says Docker with virtualbox is a thing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hackintosh/comments/eatpwu/docker_c...

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by cgb223 »

tdiggity wrote: post #61
cgb223 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is the stability of Hackintosh? What about updating to newer OS versions (minor and patch releases) Is that experience better? I haven’t looked into it since 2010

I did run into some stability issues with the latest 10.15.4 release. But I was not running this latest version of OpenCore (0.5.7) that supposedly works better with 10.15.4. I upgraded before 0.5.7 was released. I have a backup that I can test with before fully committing. That being said - I had to rebuild my machine to downgrade to 10.15.3. Luckily, I had a spare backup to work off of and things are great again. S…

> I mainly did this because I wanted to have an all-in-one machine to play the latest games with on Win10 and do work in OSX. For my daily work and coding (mostly JS/Python these days), I haven't had any issues. For the price, it can't be beat!

So it’s stable enough for pro-dev work and gaming. That’s exactly what I’m looking for.

How are Xcode build times? (Or whatever IDE you use)

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#108

Post by Ecco »

x3sphere wrote: post #72

I use OpenCore but have switched my Hackintosh system over to running in a VM (using GPU passthrough). It's easier for me to backup / make changes this way, and there is only a minor performance hit. This is a Geekbench run from my VM (Core i9 10940x with 4 cores passed through): https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15395105 I have a Windows 10 VM running on a same system too. It may not be suitable if you require vi…

Nice setup! Quick question: would you recommend getting a Core i9 10940x today or waiting for a 10900K?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by victorhooi »

Has anybody tried getting this to work under Proxmox (specifically) or KVM?

I previously used to use this guide for Proxmox - which uses Clover:

https://www.nicksherlock.com/2019/10/installing-macos-catali...

However, it seems like OC might be easier.

Somebody there suggested this (apparently non-open-source) EFI making script:

https://www.macos86.it/files/file/20-opencore-efi-maker/

but I can't even seem to get that working.

Another poster on this thread suggested

https://github.com/Leoyzen/KVM-Opencore

which seems like it could work - curious if other people have tried it and what their experiences are?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by divbzero »

runjake wrote: post #57
kposehn wrote: post #24

I’ve been using a Hack Pro for several months with OpenCore. It took a bit to learn my way through the docs as they were not terribly clear when I started but once I was up and running it was nice. I was largely happy with it, as the machine was extremely fast and very, very quiet. I also had FileVault running too along with SIP. However, the main issues I had were stability - these machines are generally nowhere nea…

My OpenCore-based Hackintosh has been rock solid with the sole exceptions of Sidecar (iPad as an additional monitor) Apple Watch Unlock, which sometimes work and sometimes doesn’t. I currently do not care enough to put much effort into it. Everything else works perfectly: iMessages, AirDrop, iCloud, etc. This is not to discredit the parent comment, but rather to stress the importance of choosing your parts for maximu…

What resource(s) would you recommend for identifying compatible parts?
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