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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by ghostpepper »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #37
austinheap wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you recall the issue? Was it FaceTime specifically or all-things-iCloud? The latter is one of the most common last-mile issues since you need to present Apple servers with hardware identifiers that iCloud agrees are real (i.e.: from your old MacBook gathering dust).

Just to add to this: it's not strictly necessary to pull an MLB from a real Mac, although that can certainly be a shortcut. If you present Apple with computer information that makes sense, and you do it right the first time, they'll usually accept it as real. I've done this around five times now and it has always worked. I can actually enter my made-up serial numbers on Apple's website, and they show up in the system…

This is fascinating to me. Surely Apple has a databases somewhere of all the S/Ns of all the computers they've ever sold. Why would they accept a made up one and insert it into their database?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by throwlaplace »

doteka wrote: post #39
throwlaplace wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>on desktops. how about on laptops? not sleep itself but hackintoshing a laptop? i really want workspaces on whatever laptop i use but i don't want to pay through the nose for a macbook - i have a loner 2013 mbp right now and even those are still selling for like $800.

So this is a genuinely surprising attitude to me. You appreciate the software features and hardware stability of a platform, yet you do not want the creators to be paid for their work? I mean, it must be obvious that doing these things well apparently costs tons of man-hours and someone needs to be compensated for it? How do you maintain that degree of cognitive dissonance?

lol at the accusatory and indignant tone.

1. apple is a hardware company not a software company. to wit: they do not sell mac os and if they did i might buy it.

2. i don't care a lick about any other features or "stability" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22845629). i simply said that i appreciated the workspaces feature. can i buy this feature ala carte? i would gladly. can i pay the devs that built it for their work? i would gladly.

3. i maintain my cognitive dissonance the same way you do when paying a 2x markup for commodity hardware.

edit: man every day i can't help but feel more and more that people in tech (at least as this site reflects) are some of the most self-righteous.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by tdiggity »

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago.

The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds.

AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out the latest standard 16" Macbook Pros.

For developers - One thing to note is that Docker is not supported with AMD hackintoshes. There are some workarounds but they seem fragile. Otherwise, everything else works great for me. I am mostly on cloud based apps/tools. Others also pointed out that Adobe, and vmware has issues. virtual box works.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by _fzslm »

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

also Adobe software requires patches, which is a little bit more of a dealbreaker.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by cgb223 »

tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

How is the stability of Hackintosh?

What about updating to newer OS versions (minor and patch releases)

Is that experience better?

I haven’t looked into it since 2010

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by runjake »

kposehn wrote: post #24

I’ve been using a Hack Pro for several months with OpenCore. It took a bit to learn my way through the docs as they were not terribly clear when I started but once I was up and running it was nice. I was largely happy with it, as the machine was extremely fast and very, very quiet. I also had FileVault running too along with SIP. However, the main issues I had were stability - these machines are generally nowhere nea…

My OpenCore-based Hackintosh has been rock solid with the sole exceptions of Sidecar (iPad as an additional monitor) Apple Watch Unlock, which sometimes work and sometimes doesn’t. I currently do not care enough to put much effort into it. Everything else works perfectly: iMessages, AirDrop, iCloud, etc.

This is not to discredit the parent comment, but rather to stress the importance of choosing your parts for maximum Hackintosh compatibility.

I built my PC to be a Hackintosh. I choose the build parts that were most compatible. Trying to Hackintosh arbitrary PC builds is above my tolerance threshold.

If you don’t want to mess with your Hackintosh all the time, go this route. If you don’t want to have to mess with your Hackintosh at all, buy a Mac.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Digory »

kposehn wrote: post #24

I’ve been using a Hack Pro for several months with OpenCore. It took a bit to learn my way through the docs as they were not terribly clear when I started but once I was up and running it was nice. I was largely happy with it, as the machine was extremely fast and very, very quiet. I also had FileVault running too along with SIP. However, the main issues I had were stability - these machines are generally nowhere nea…

You mean OpenCore is not as stable? Hackintoshes in general have become really stable, at least on the "recommended" hardware from sites like TonyMacx86.

I've had a Clover Hack Pro as my primary workstation for at least 4 years now -- and it's more stable than my 2018 Macbook Air.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by iamjustlooking »

_fzslm wrote: post #55
tdiggity wrote: post #53

As another data point - Building a hackintosh is so much simpler now than it was 5 years ago. The reddit forum at r/hackintosh is pretty helpful for getting started and has a nice repository of builds. AMD Ryzen CPUs are fairly well supported now. My current system is a 3700x with radeon 5700xt gpu. I use OSX for my daily work, and Windows 10 for gaming. It's a great setup for $1000. My OSX geekbench specs beat out t…

also Adobe software requires patches, which is a little bit more of a dealbreaker.

Unity wont bake lights on Ryzen Hackintosh too using Progressive GPU/CPU. Also VMWare won't run because of lack of Intel specific VT-x support, same with Docker for mac, Virtualbox runs fine though (it finds amd-v).

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

#60

Post by Wowfunhappy »

ghostpepper wrote: post #51
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to add to this: it's not strictly necessary to pull an MLB from a real Mac, although that can certainly be a shortcut. If you present Apple with computer information that makes sense, and you do it right the first time, they'll usually accept it as real. I've done this around five times now and it has always worked. I can actually enter my made-up serial numbers on Apple's website, and they show up in the system…

This is fascinating to me. Surely Apple has a databases somewhere of all the S/Ns of all the computers they've ever sold. Why would they accept a made up one and insert it into their database?

I've long wondered that too! I have to assume that, for some kind of manufacturing reason, Apple either doesn't have such a database or doesn't trust its accuracy.

If anyone with more knowledge of supply chain dynamics knows why this might be, please feel free to chime to chime in!

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