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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by throwlaplace »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #22
t0mislav wrote: post #9

What is current state of Hackintosh this days? Is it stable?

I set up my first Hackintosh in 2011 while on Spring Break in High School. It was the most difficult computing project I'd ever done up until that point--partly because it was legitimately more difficult back then, partly because I was using a pre-built Dell instead of a custom machine with parts targeting Hackintosh, and also probably because I was a stupid teenager who didn't know what he was doing. But once I was…

>on desktops.

how about on laptops? not sleep itself but hackintoshing a laptop? i really want workspaces on whatever laptop i use but i don't want to pay through the nose for a macbook - i have a loner 2013 mbp right now and even those are still selling for like $800.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by [deleted] »

jamesholden wrote: post #21
austinheap wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are people who publish hardware ‘QVL’ lists for Hackintosh builds — stick to the list and it’s smooth sailing. Venture off the list and you end up on page 16 of some forum convinced you need to dump your DSDT tables to edit some voodoo magic. I’ve been on developing on Hackintoshs for work full-time (both desktop and laptops) for many many years now with minimal hiccups. 4K HDR touchscreen laptop in 2018, yes p…

Where can I find something like this? I have been trying to get my new system working and it's a bit frustrating.

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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by tarsinge »

kposehn wrote: post #24

I’ve been using a Hack Pro for several months with OpenCore. It took a bit to learn my way through the docs as they were not terribly clear when I started but once I was up and running it was nice. I was largely happy with it, as the machine was extremely fast and very, very quiet. I also had FileVault running too along with SIP. However, the main issues I had were stability - these machines are generally nowhere nea…

My main workstation was a hackintosh back in 2012 and I remember it was extremely stable for my use. Did not use iCloud nor Wake from sleep though, and it was pre SIP (OS X Lion).

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

austinheap wrote: post #18
lukevp wrote: post #15

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I think this is a difficult question to answer because MacOS is built for specific hardware configurations, and Hackintosh has to build unofficial support for all sorts of non-standard configurations. Your experience with a hackintosh really depends what hardware you're trying to install it on.

There are people who publish hardware ‘QVL’ lists for Hackintosh builds — stick to the list and it’s smooth sailing. Venture off the list and you end up on page 16 of some forum convinced you need to dump your DSDT tables to edit some voodoo magic. I’ve been on developing on Hackintoshs for work full-time (both desktop and laptops) for many many years now with minimal hiccups. 4K HDR touchscreen laptop in 2018, yes p…

Echoing this! Hardware makes all the difference--for the smoothest possible setup, follow a path that has already been documented.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by austinheap »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #28
austinheap wrote: post #25

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KextUpdater tracks/downloads releases for the kexts you have installed from their upstream repos. I was in the “never update a working hackintosh” camp for years but this tool changed that.

That's neat, but it doesn't get around the initial setup process, which is what I thought (?) the GP was talking about. You need to know which kexts to use, what weird bootloader options to set, etc etc. I've actually never been in the "never update a working Hackintosh" camp. For better or worse, I've always installed point releases, and I can't recall a single time when they've broken something. (Whole version upgr…

Initial setup I’ve always done with as much disabled as possible — ideally zero custom kexts — so I certainly may have read GP through the wrong lens!

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by forgingahead »

austinheap wrote: post #29
jamesholden wrote: post #21

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Where can I find something like this? I have been trying to get my new system working and it's a bit frustrating.

There are two routes I’d recommend: 1) Many of the reliable community sites post buying guides; without wading into which I find reliable just search for “hackintosh buyers guide 2020”, “hackintosh compatibility list”, etc. 2) My now-preferred route is following developers on Github who post their hardware and EFI folder. It’ll be obvious which repos are from engineers who depend on it for their day-to-day based on s…

Mind sharing what laptop and setup guide you used? I'm still on a MBP 2012 for work which I like, and I'm thinking ahead to my next work laptop -- looking for similar ports/etc as my MBP 2012 (doesn't need to be latest specs, and I'm a creature of habit).

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

austinheap wrote: post #20
zamalek wrote: post #14

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Linus Tech Tips does one every few years, the last one was pretty recent I think. As far as I remember, almost everything worked really well. Notably, Facetime was really hit-and-miss.

Do you recall the issue? Was it FaceTime specifically or all-things-iCloud? The latter is one of the most common last-mile issues since you need to present Apple servers with hardware identifiers that iCloud agrees are real (i.e.: from your old MacBook gathering dust).

Just to add to this: it's not strictly necessary to pull an MLB from a real Mac, although that can certainly be a shortcut.

If you present Apple with computer information that makes sense, and you do it right the first time, they'll usually accept it as real. I've done this around five times now and it has always worked. I can actually enter my made-up serial numbers on Apple's website, and they show up in the system as real computers[1]!

The serial, MLB, hardware model, etc all need to match, and you need to get it right on the first try! Apple seems to get suspicious once you've fed them weird data.

[1] When I tell people this, they always ask if I'm sure I didn't collide with a real serial. The possibility that this happened--especially every time I've done it--is incredibly small, so I'm quite sure that isn't what's happening.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by PascLeRasc »

throwlaplace wrote: post #31
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up my first Hackintosh in 2011 while on Spring Break in High School. It was the most difficult computing project I'd ever done up until that point--partly because it was legitimately more difficult back then, partly because I was using a pre-built Dell instead of a custom machine with parts targeting Hackintosh, and also probably because I was a stupid teenager who didn't know what he was doing. But once I was…

>on desktops. how about on laptops? not sleep itself but hackintoshing a laptop? i really want workspaces on whatever laptop i use but i don't want to pay through the nose for a macbook - i have a loner 2013 mbp right now and even those are still selling for like $800.

I did it with a Dell XPS 15 last summer and it was easier than installing Windows. Sleep worked fine, the wifi card was the only thing that had to be changed.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by doteka »

throwlaplace wrote: post #31
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up my first Hackintosh in 2011 while on Spring Break in High School. It was the most difficult computing project I'd ever done up until that point--partly because it was legitimately more difficult back then, partly because I was using a pre-built Dell instead of a custom machine with parts targeting Hackintosh, and also probably because I was a stupid teenager who didn't know what he was doing. But once I was…

>on desktops. how about on laptops? not sleep itself but hackintoshing a laptop? i really want workspaces on whatever laptop i use but i don't want to pay through the nose for a macbook - i have a loner 2013 mbp right now and even those are still selling for like $800.

So this is a genuinely surprising attitude to me. You appreciate the software features and hardware stability of a platform, yet you do not want the creators to be paid for their work?

I mean, it must be obvious that doing these things well apparently costs tons of man-hours and someone needs to be compensated for it? How do you maintain that degree of cognitive dissonance?

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by derefr »

austinheap wrote: post #35
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's neat, but it doesn't get around the initial setup process, which is what I thought (?) the GP was talking about. You need to know which kexts to use, what weird bootloader options to set, etc etc. I've actually never been in the "never update a working Hackintosh" camp. For better or worse, I've always installed point releases, and I can't recall a single time when they've broken something. (Whole version upgr…

Initial setup I’ve always done with as much disabled as possible — ideally zero custom kexts — so I certainly may have read GP through the wrong lens!

Not that "initial setup"; the initial setting-up process of getting your Hackintosh from "a stock install where most things don't work" to "customized with drivers and patches that make everything work." That's the time-consuming part; and that's the part that could be automated. It's the thing that MultiBeast tries (but mostly fails) to do.
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