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What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by im3w1l »

mmm_grayons wrote: post #12

Domains really shouldn't be tied to country of origin. Conceptually, it doesn't make sense to restrict DNS based on geopolitical boundaries. If a foreign company wants to register a .us domain, for instance, nothing should stop it.

Imagine if Exoticstan managed all of DNS and their rules prohibited websites that your country allowed and even saw as culturally important. It's to avoid scenarios like that, that having a country specific tld is important. If a country has a conflict with whoever manages the DNS root, they could hardcode themselves as owning their cctld.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by jedberg »

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked.

Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves.

Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD.

A lot of small countries would probably gladly put up their ccTLDs for auction for the one time cash infusion, and in cases like this, if the country does get turned back over, the acquiring country would probably be glad to have the money.

This solution seems like an everyone wins scenario. The TLD continues to exist and some government gets a small cash infusion.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by wvenable »

mmm_grayons wrote: post #12

Domains really shouldn't be tied to country of origin. Conceptually, it doesn't make sense to restrict DNS based on geopolitical boundaries. If a foreign company wants to register a .us domain, for instance, nothing should stop it.

> it doesn't make sense to restrict DNS based on geopolitical boundaries.

Sure it does because those geopolitical boundries make sense for things like e-commerce. As a Canadian, I know that a site having a .ca domain will definitely ship to my address.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by xxpor »

scythe wrote: post #30
blibble wrote: post #15

it's too strategic for the UK to want to give up and there's no mechanism to force it to do, so there's no particular reason to be worried that it will similarly the linked Guardian article makes a fuss about the UK's security council seat, which again, the UK will never give up, and again, there's no mechanism to remove it

More importantly, the whole reason that the UK owns the islands, and the reason it evicted the Chagossians, was because the United States wanted them to . The UK will not lose its place on the UNSC for doing the bidding of the US. The UK likewise will not give up its territory because they would much rather piss off the ICJ than the US. The islands are a UK colony only in name; they are a US colony in reality. I feel…

Given how little care is given to the Marshallese in the US, where we literally nuked their islands out of existence, I can't imagine anyone's going to care about BIOT any time soon.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by searchableguy »

voldacar wrote: post #11

Does the current TLD system even make sense? There is a .amazon, a .google, a .cancerresearch, a .sex, a .rich (which costs thousands of dollars btw). Plenty of them such as .io and .tv are all completely untethered from their original meanings/purposes. At this point, a website is just a string with a '.' in it somewhere. Instead of having 1500+ discretely decided upon TLDs why not just let people just create their…

.rich seems like a great idea to earn shit ton of money.

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by koheripbal »

jedberg wrote: post #32

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked. Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves. Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD. A lot of small countries would prob…

I'm not sure everybody wins. What happens if a malicious country buys the tld and then appropriates the domains and/or redirects traffic?

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by freehunter »

MivLives wrote: post #29
kspacewalk2 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.yu ccTLD shows what else can happen, i.e. domains of ex-countries can be killed off.

This whole thing kinda makes me nervous for using a .in and not being from India.

Is India in danger of being made an ex-country like Yugoslavia?

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by dmurray »

jedberg wrote: post #32

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked. Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves. Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD. A lot of small countries would prob…

What's the difference between this and the current situation where countries can also sell or lease their ccTLD to the highest bidder? Are the gTLD registrars held to stricter standards when it comes to continuity of service?

Re: What happens when a ccTLD is retired? Exploring the potential risks of .io

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Post by jedberg »

koheripbal wrote: post #37
jedberg wrote: post #32

It seems that there is an easy solution here that is being overlooked. Allow any country to nominate their ccTLD for conversion to gTLD, and make that automatic when a country dissolves. Hold an auction for the gTLD for anyone who qualifies under the existing gTLD rules, and the highest bidder gets to run the gTLD. The proceeds of the auction go to the country that owned the ccTLD. A lot of small countries would prob…

I'm not sure everybody wins. What happens if a malicious country buys the tld and then appropriates the domains and/or redirects traffic?

The gTLD transfer rules already supposedly prevent this. But this is a risk with the transfer of any gTLD.
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