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Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by Agathos »

Retric wrote: post #73
tcoff91 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if we can count on the ACA staying around forever.

It survived both political parties in power. It might get chipped away over the next 30 years or replaced with public option etc, but bringing back the preexisting condition issue would be extremely unpopular. Also, it does not actually cost insurance companies much money as they can all just raise premiums.

So you're confident that the Supreme Court will overturn the 5th Circuit's decision to throw it out? The Supreme Court will be hearing the case this autumn.

And you must be confident that Trump will lose, since the 5-4 majority that saved Obamacare last time will not survive a few more Republican appointments.

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by fellowniusmonk »

tylershuster wrote: post #81
fellowniusmonk wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If freewill is so sacred why does the OT and NT have so many examples of freewill being removed? Like in 2 Kings 1:10 and other places, if God is fine with freewill being ignored, and God never changes, then he can act, and if he can act would he not be considered unjust by Jesus words in Luke 18:1-8? Not a gotcha or academic question, just something on my mind recently.

I'm not positive that the 2 Kings example is exactly free will being removed, because Elijah asks God for what happens, and God does respond to prayer (praying with faith is another issue). But I do see what you're asking — how God seems to step in more often in the OT. Thinking of all of human history from ~4000BC until now where Mankind "grows up" over time, the concept of God as Father works — parents put a lot of…

I mean the people who got torched had their freewill removed without warning, death by direct action of God. The issue is not with boundary setting, the issue is with Jesus seemingly calling himself (God) unjust, since freewill doesn't seem like an inviolable issue, if God doesn't have a hard restriction on effecting freewill (which seems to be the case) then he is seemingly the same as the unjust judge? I understand the argument from Job that people aren't to question God because we are simple clay to him, or the argument that people are evil and deserve nothing less than eternal suffering, but since Jesus set the expectation and made the connection directly in Luke it seems like a non-upheld internal measure/standard of God's own?

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by peter_d_sherman »

Excerpt:

"At work, Lee was still the star engineer. At the end of the summer of 2014, he took on a project that earned Cloudflare its first bout of internet fame:

The company would help websites become encrypted for free.

(It was not yet standard for company websites to be encrypted.)"

Yes, but, this might have earned him the ire of some Nation-States...

Let's remember that Distributed-Denial-of-Service (DDoS) attacks on a website in one nation (which Cloudflare prevents) might very well have been an early form of content censorship by other Nation-States (China, etc.), although newer forms of this exist...

When somebody who once occupied a position of Internet power like Lee Holloway did, dies unexpectedly, allegedly from "natural causes",

Demand an immediate and thorough investigation

Because future Internet Freedom may be at stake...

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by notabee »

billti wrote: post #25

> The neurologists delivered their verdict: He appeared to have a textbook case of frontotemporal dementia—known by the shorthand FTD Oh man, was that a kick in the guts when I got to that bit. My Dad was diagnosed with that in the past year, (after obviously struggling for a while), and declined rapidly. He had a different variant, and indeed the one thing that DIDN'T change was his personality. In fact, that's what…

CSF leaks/hypotension are also potentially implicated in frontotemporal dementia: https://journals.lww.com/neurotodayonline/Fulltext/2002/0900...

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by Koshkin »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #13

Perhaps this is too philosophical, but for anyone who has dealt with someone with a long decline into dementia, it's very difficult for me to understand a belief in God after going through that (I certainly understand some people have the exact opposite reaction, so I'm in no way saying this belief is correct). It's just difficult for me to envision a crueler God if that is indeed the case. A person who has died long…

If I start with God, any conclusion I will care to make will be true.

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by ProAm »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #13

Perhaps this is too philosophical, but for anyone who has dealt with someone with a long decline into dementia, it's very difficult for me to understand a belief in God after going through that (I certainly understand some people have the exact opposite reaction, so I'm in no way saying this belief is correct). It's just difficult for me to envision a crueler God if that is indeed the case. A person who has died long…

G-d is a human construct.

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by Koshkin »

lpah4all wrote: post #69
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #13

Perhaps this is too philosophical, but for anyone who has dealt with someone with a long decline into dementia, it's very difficult for me to understand a belief in God after going through that (I certainly understand some people have the exact opposite reaction, so I'm in no way saying this belief is correct). It's just difficult for me to envision a crueler God if that is indeed the case. A person who has died long…

Every person is a door to your happiness, and you have the choice to serve their happiness or to treat them callously or even cruelly. There is no religion without the person actively trying to be a better person to every single person around them. It doesn't matter what spiritual practices they do or don't do, we are each measured by our hearts with respect to how we treat every person we encounter. Religion's only…

The True Scotsman, I know...

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by chromanoid »

Igelau wrote: post #86
david_w wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to be cruel, but the preexisting, running total of human suffering and tragedy in this world points to the fact that transcendent reality, the realm of God or a God, must have an alternative interpretation for human events, one which humans cannot fathom. So for example, the tragedies which occur in your nightmares, after you wake, are given a different interpretation- the interpretation of "non-reality", i.e. it…

> the preexisting, running total of human suffering and tragedy in this world points to the fact that transcendent reality, the realm of God or a God, must have an alternative interpretation for human events You're begging the question. It doesn't point to that at all. Furthermore, I'd feel terrible accepting that "fact" if I were faithful. It would reduce my faith to that in a demiurge who can't (ergo impotent) or w…

Exactly, unless one sees the suffering of others as suffering of NPCs or punishment for a former life, I cannot understand how one can believe in a benevolent omnipotent god. The cruelty that some have to endure is simply not explainable with a such a god. It cannot be benevolent AND omnipotent by definition. It becomes far far far more likely that there is simply no such a god. It's not like this dilemma is new so there should be a better explanation by now.

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by Koshkin »

hwc wrote: post #29
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #13

Perhaps this is too philosophical, but for anyone who has dealt with someone with a long decline into dementia, it's very difficult for me to understand a belief in God after going through that (I certainly understand some people have the exact opposite reaction, so I'm in no way saying this belief is correct). It's just difficult for me to envision a crueler God if that is indeed the case. A person who has died long…

If God exists, they are cruel and uncaring.

Not more than people. On the other hand, anything you write after that comma would evaluate to truth.

Re: What Happened to Lee

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Post by libria »

reuben_scratton wrote: post #72
daenz wrote: post #24

The question that occurs to me is: if you knew that was in your future, would you spend your last 10 good years toiling at a startup?

Yes. His family are financially secure, thanks to his Cloudflare millions. I could die much more easily knowing my family were safe after I'd gone.

That's the answer to "Would you spend your last 10 years securing a guaranteed multi-million dollar payout?" not "Would you work your tail off for a gamble?"

Startup != assured success.

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